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Cat Scratch Reader article about what offense we will run.


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Yes it is. The foundation of the "Air Coryell" system is built around mid to long range passing with 5 receivers going through sets.

Coryell can be run with two receivers, with five, with three, etc... The system starts with a strong running game, and most sets involve a deep option. That's where it gets it's rep.

In addition, there are several variants of the system as a result of tweaks it's advocates have made. Look at Mike Martz vs. Norv Turner. Very different in execution.

Here's an excerpt from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coryell_offense for you, and there are many, many more articles around the net on this specifically, if you care to do the research.

Norv Turner learned the offense from longtime Coryell assistant, Ernie Zampese. Turner's take on the Coryell system turned around the career of Hall of Fame QB Troy Aikman and has proven to be very successful with talented high draft picks struggling with the complexities of the NFL, such as Alex Smith. Turner' variant is not the most robust flavor of Coryell offense. It is a very sound, QB friendly scheme that favors taking controlled chances, like quicker midrange post passes to WRs off play action rather than slower developing passes that leave QBs exposed. It is almost exclusively run out of the pro set. Turner favors a more limited palette of plays than Coryell and most other Coryell disciples, instead insisting on precise execution. His offenses are usually towards the top of the league standings, but are often labeled predictable. His offenses tend to include a strong running game, a #1 WR who can stretch the field and catch jump balls in the end-zone, a good receiving TE to attack the space the WRs create in the middle of the field and a FB who fills the role of a lead blocker and a final option as an outlet receiver. In Dallas, Turner made RB Emmitt Smith & WR Michael Irvin Hall of Famers, and TE Jay Novacek a five time pro bowler. As head coach of the San Diego Chargers, Turner's system helped quarterback Philip Rivers set new franchise records for single-season quarterback rating and touchdown passes in 2008.

The Martz variant is a much more robust offense with a more complex playbook. It is a much more aggressive passing offense, frequently deploying pre-snap motion and shifts, with the run often forgotten. There is much less of a focus on play action. The Martz variant favors an elusive feature back who can catch the ball over the power runners the Turner scheme favors. Martz credits his influences on his variation of the offensive system to Sid Gillman and Don Coryell. Martz learned the so called 3 digit system the offense is famous for with how the plays are called from Turner when they were both in Washington. The Rams set a new NFL record for total offensive yards in 2000, with 7,335. 5,492 of those were passing yards, also a new NFL team record. Martz tends to favor a 3 WR set with more elusive players, a third receiver and the Half back filling the role of middle receivers that TEs & FBs fulfill in the Turner offense. The Martz offense works best with two elite WRs with top speed. Unlike the Turner variant, due to the complexity of the Martz offense, the QBs who execute it best are often the more intelligent QBs who intuitively get what Martz is trying to do, not the elite athlete whose team's personnel department might favor drafting with a high draft pick. Whether it is due to the personality of the coach or the nature of the scheme, the Martz variant has historically had problems when teams shut down the run and make the team one dimensional. Additionally, the QBs sometimes take a lot of hits in this system.

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Yes it is. The foundation of the "Air Coryell" system is built around mid to long range passing with 5 receivers going through sets.

As opposed to the WCO, where short passes function like long handoffs and it's all about yards after catch.

Perhaps the whole premise of the "Air Coryell" system being implemented needs to be tossed out.

Every single offensive coach we've hired can be connected to Norv Turner in less than two steps. With most of them, it only takes one. That's definitely no accident.

Pretty safe to say our offensive system is gonna look a lot like a Turner-run offense.

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Pretty safe to say our offensive system is gonna look a lot like a Turner-run offense.

You get it, (and I knew you got it anyway from prior posts you have made). I have a question for you.

Since Coryell places a premium on route running, and since Turner's variant is all about the Tight End, do you see LaFell and Rosario beating out Gettis and King?

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You get it, (and I knew you got it anyway from prior posts you have made). I have a question for you.

Since Coryell places a premium on route running, and since Turner's variant is all about the Tight End, do you see LaFell and Rosario beating out Gettis and King?

If I were making a prediction right now, I'd say by season's end - and maybe even at season's beginning - we'll see Gettis and LaFell as the starting receivers and Steve Smith used as the number three to give him the ability to be more effective and take advantage of matchups.

I think this year's starting tight end is not currently on the roster. I expect a free agent there, though I acknowledge a draft pick is possible.

Naturally, a lot could happen between now and the season.

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I mean personell wise we are built for a run first and run often offense with a stout defense.

Hoping for anything other than that will lead to disappointment.

just because we're built for something now with fox's leftovers doesn't mean we can't rebuild the team. it also doesn't mean that with coaching, our currrent players can't be taught how to play in a new system.

we don't have to be locked into one system. if a new coaching staff want to implement a new offensive or defensive scheme, they can and use the players that are capable of adapting and the ones who can't adapt, will get replaced with players who can.

just because we have certain types of players on our team now doesn't mean this coaching staff's hands are tied and we're stuck running systems just because of personnel. this is what roster cuts, the draft and free agency is for.

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Name an NFL offense that does not put a premium on route running?

Honestly, this is 100% pure unadulterated lengthy speculation. Which is fine, but pretending it to be a probability is a bit silly.

Wanna know what the offense will really look like? We will begin to know in 7 months or so....hopefully.

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just because we're built for something now with fox's leftovers doesn't mean we can't rebuild the team. it also doesn't mean that with coaching, our currrent players can't be taught how to play in a new system.

we don't have to be locked into one system. if a new coaching staff want to implement a new offensive or defensive scheme, they can and use the players that are capable of adapting and the ones who can't adapt, will get replaced with players who can.

just because we have certain types of players on our team now doesn't mean this coaching staff's hands are tied and we're stuck running systems just because of personnel. this is what roster cuts, the draft and free agency is for.

Prepare for dissapointment.

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I agree, which is why I make several references to the fact that it's speculation and guesswork throughout both that one and the one I wrote on the defense. But without speculation, there's not going to be much to talk about for the next several months. :)

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Let's hope we have a QB that can run the new offense. If Jimmy has to learn a new offense, doubt he will be the starter any time soon.

How bout a guy whose head coach in college once had Norv Turner as an OC while coaching in the pros, and who also worked closely in college with Turner's son Scott, who's now on staff with the Panthers?

I think that guy will at least get a shot in camp. Whether he makes it or not is up to him.

Again, I think this season's starter will come from the free agent pool (such as it is) :(

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