LinvilleGorge

A lot of this stuff floating around out there. Seems like too much smoke for there not to be at least some fire behind it. I bet LSU is pretty nervous right now. LOL

Yes please. More of this. A LOT more of this.

I think the biggest reason is the level of investment we made in him. Of he was a mid-round pick I'm not sure he would've been in the roster after his rookie season. If he was a run if the mill 1st rounder I thi k we wpulsve been looking hard to move on this past offseason. Even if he was a regular #1 overall pick I think there would've been at least legit competition brought in this past offseason. I honestly think we've been caught in a sunk cost fallacy trap for tmthree years now. I just wonder how far it was into his rookie TC that the concerning glances at each other started happening between the coaches as the raw talent issue became undeniably prevalent.

Yep, all of thus. As the old saying goes winning cures everything. But they're not winning right now and I don't see that changing with Jones out now and who knows how much of next season he might miss, plus the whole contract situation and being down two 1st rounders. It might be about to get real messy in Indy.

Evidently he was banging his assistant something happened that made the assistant go to the university and lay it all put there, they fire him as a result, and then he basically went crazy probably anticipating his life completely unraveling. Wild. Chasing that strange will make some guys do some outlandish poo. Keep it between the lines fellas. Ain't worth it.

Crazy story

The hits add up. I know he lobbied for Higgins but the Bengals really needed to let Higgins walk or trade him. With Burrow making franchise QB money and two elite paid WRs they're really hamstrung and their OL has been trash his entire career. They needed to sit him down and lay it out to him that they couldn't pay Higgins and here's the plan going forward to put an OL in front of you.

BYU? Hell, they have at least as strong of an argument as ND for being snubbed from the playoffs. Why didn't they take their ball and go stomping home? What are they doing playing?

No, I'm saying it doesn't help the ACC and their rep having their largely lower to mid-tier teams getting their asses beat by ND on national TV. The only other major conference their current deal may have made sense for was the Big 12 and that commissioner has basically been the only guy in a position of relevance who had had the balls to basically tell ND to fug off so I don't see that happening. The ACC holds the upper hand here if they're just willing to play their cards instead of panicking and folding every time ND bluffs.

I think the Big 10 would tell them to fug off. I don't think they'd bend over and take it like the ACC has. Same with the SEC. The ACC is largely willing to deal with it because they're basically just barely hanging on as a major conference in football. But ND beating their largely lower level teams on national TV isn't helping their reputation.

Well, until he got stabbed by a 69 year old man defending himself from being assaulted. Now he's the butt fumbler who was nearly killed by a 69 year old man while being a drunken asshole. Just when you think your legacy has hit rock bottom... LOL

Yep. The Golden Calf of Bristol, Kaepernick, late career Cam, Shedeur's draft slide... they all come down to the reality that teams don't want a distraction out of a guy they see as a likely a backup QB. And instead of the media acknowledging their major role in that situation, they just double down and make it worse and confirm teams' suspicions that yeah... not worth it.

I think it basically came down to the NFL seriously doubting his ability to be a starting NFL QB and not wanting to bring on all the outside noise that he'd bring for a backup. Backup QBs are expected to be out of sight and out of mind. That doesn't exactly fit the wheelhouse of Shedeur and the Sanders clan, not to mention all the media clamoring about it. Then when he just blew off the entire pre-draft process (which he essentially flat out admitted to) I think he probably dropped completely off a lot of draft boards.

I think the problem is that the ceiling is "consistently mediocre" with "occasionally good" and the one great performance.