Panthers meeting with...a center from USC

[Jackofalltrades]

Which is why we have had the same holes for over a decade.

No, it's because of Hurney. When you reach for needs you mess up; it's been proven time and time again.

[micnificent28]

No, it's because of Hurney. When you reach for needs you mess up; it's been proven time and time again.

So if we went with Say bpa every year and even if we hit on all of them we would still have the same whole at wr because most of the time other positions out weigh them in terms of BPA. Hurney more often that not went bpa himself which is why we have Luke. Hurney didn't go need as much as you think because we've needed a wr since moose left. We have needed a compliment to steve smith since then as well. Cam needs weapons as much as any other qb. But the bpa method is highly over rated. We are stacked on defense because,hey bpa...our offense is in shambles and to neglect a franchise passer who has a chance to be a hall of fame talent is rediculious to me. I've never seen a franchise do less to help there franchise passer. this is really depressing to see IND stock luck with weapons for the next 10 years and so one with other young guns. What have we added on offensive since drafting cam?

[gettlemanjack]

So if we went with Say bpa every year and even if we hit on all of them we would still have the same whole at wr because most of the time other positions out weigh them in terms of BPA. Hurney more often that not went bpa himself which is why we have Luke. Hurney didn't go need as much as you think because we've needed a wr since moose left. We have needed a compliment to steve smith since then as well. Cam needs weapons as much as any other qb. But the bpa method is highly over rated. We are stacked on defense because,hey bpa...our offense is in shambles and to neglect a franchise passer who has a chance to be a hall of fame talent is rediculious to me. I've never seen a franchise do less to help there franchise passer. this is really depressing to see IND stock luck with weapons for the next 10 years and so one with other young guns. What have we added on offensive since drafting cam?

just via the draft, this is what we added since getting Cam...

offense

2nd R OG - Amini Silatolu

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4th R WR - Joe Adams

4th R OG - Edmund Kugbila

5th R WR - Kealoha Pilares

6th R RB - Kenjon Barner

6th R C - Zachary Williams

7th R OT - Lee Ziemba

defense

1st R LB - Luke Kuechly

1st R DT - Star Lotulelei

2nd R DT - Kawann Short

3rd R DT - Terrell McClain

3rd R DT - Sione Fua

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4th R DE - Frank Alexander

4th R CB - Brandon Hogan

5th R LB - A.J. Klein

5th R CB - Josh Norman

6th R LB - Lawrence Wilson

7th R S - D.J. Campbell

[Soul Rebel]

just via the draft, this is what we added since getting Cam...

offense

2nd R OG - Amini Silatolu

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4th R WR - Joe Adams

4th R OG - Edmund Kugbila

5th R WR - Kealoha Pilares

6th R RB - Kenjon Barner

6th R C - Zachary Williams

7th R OT - Lee Ziemba

defense

1st R LB - Luke Kuechly

1st R DT - Star Lotulelei

2nd R DT - Kawann Short

3rd R DT - Terrell McClain

3rd R DT - Sione Fua

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4th R DE - Frank Alexander

4th R CB - Brandon Hogan

5th R LB - A.J. Klein

5th R CB - Josh Norman

6th R LB - Lawrence Wilson

7th R S - D.J. Campbell

Brandon Hogan.....such high hopes :(

[Man Strength]

When you have a chance to put all your cap room into center, running backs and linebackers you just have to do it

[Argus Plexus]

I would like the pick

[micnificent28]

just via the draft, this is what we added since getting Cam...

offense

2nd R OG - Amini Silatolu

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4th R WR - Joe Adams

4th R OG - Edmund Kugbila

5th R WR - Kealoha Pilares

6th R RB - Kenjon Barner

6th R C - Zachary Williams

7th R OT - Lee Ziemba

defense

1st R LB - Luke Kuechly

1st R DT - Star Lotulelei

2nd R DT - Kawann Short

3rd R DT - Terrell McClain

3rd R DT - Sione Fua

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4th R DE - Frank Alexander

4th R CB - Brandon Hogan

5th R LB - A.J. Klein

5th R CB - Josh Norman

6th R LB - Lawrence Wilson

7th R S - D.J. Campbell

Not nearly good enuff of an investment into a franchise qb.

[DaveThePanther2008]

Brandon Hogan.....such high hopes :(

 

No kidding.   I was really excited about this guy but never showed anything at any time.  What a waste of a pick.

 

[gettlemanjack]

Cason was battling between the #4 and # 5 CB spot for the Cards last year, yet there are a lot of people here happy with the idea he could be our #1 or #2

[SauceBoss]

have liked this guy to be RG since day one. If he's there in the third, he's ours.

[thefuzz]

Not a chance in hell. 

 

Kalil isn't going anywhere.  He is as important as a LT.  You have to have a smart man under center to make all those calls and still protect HIS QB. 

 

Cut Smitty, Let Gross retire, don't sign Ginn or Mitchell I was pissed but understood.   Let Kalil walk I would be furious at Gettleman.

 

You just don't let a quality center like that walk.  Take a look at how long former Tarheel Jeff Saturday was with Peyton Manning.

 

Kalil may one day be a HOFer.

 

I disagree with you, and I'm betting DG does as well.

 

Again, Ryan is going to count right at 22 million MILLION against the cap over the next two years.  To think that he is uncutable, is foolish.

 

DG does not strike me as the type guy to pay a C that kind of coin.

[gettlemanjack]

we made Kalil the highest paid center in the league in 2011. Alex Mack just passed him up as the highest paid center in the league thanks to the offer the Jags threw at him. both were All-Pro centers last season

the 2014 cap hits of other top centers per spotrac

$7.2M - Nick Mangold (30) was All-Pro in 2011 and 2010

$6.1M - Max Unger (28) was All-Pro in 2012

$5.5M - Maurkice Pouncey (24) was All-Pro in 2012 and 2011

$4.7M - John Sullivan (28) was All-Pro in 2012

[Rise of The Hive]

If he is BPA let's do this!

[Kuech the Sneak]

Don't know how I'd feel about sua filo in the first, would be one of those picks Im kind of in the middle on