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Would Gettleman have drafted Cam?

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The nfl is a pendulum, suck long enough the draft picks will materialize. Any gm can just wait for that to happen and hope he doesn't get fired by then. Good GMs excel in free agency and is all about winning now. Bad GMs build through the draft.

Our cap wasn't that bad entering the off season. The move gettleman made put us in cap hell. There is no proof that the only side of the ball we can put money on was the defense. Maybe smith and Nicks was the better direction than 13mil to Hardy. Hardy is not that feared throughout the league.

 

 

You win.  I don't often laugh out loud when reading on this forum, but I spit water out when reading this.

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READ FIRST-This not a thread bashing Gettleman. This is not a thread praising Hurney.

It seems like in every thread many people love to continuously throw Hurney under the bus. The man deserved to be fired, but he also should get credit for bringing in the foundation of this football team that Gettleman has the opportunity to build upon. I'm talking about

Cam Newton

Luke Kuechly

Greg Hardy

Charles Johnson

Ryan Kalil

Greg Olsen

These are the guys along with Star, that Gettleman is building this football team around. So give the man some credit, he was terrible with contracts but he gave us and Gettleman an outstanding core to work with.

Now given what we've seen and heard from Gettleman, "the 7 second pause", "has to make plays from the pocket" and that's after Cam Newton set records in the NFL. Like he said after the season, Cam proved it. I don't believe he was 100% sold on Cam when he got here. He may have been 80 or even 90 but not 100%.

Cam had the potential to be this good, but there were legitimate concerns with him. Do you think Gettleman would have drafted him, or a Von Miller, Marcell Dareus?

 

 

The answer is...most likely yes.

 

There were a lot of concerns about Cam coming out of college, a lot of them very real.  That said, if you don't have a QB (we didn't) you can't win consistently in this league.  DG knows this very well.  We had to draft a QB, and when you are looking at the QB's in that draft, Cam was the best pick.

 

Cam can do "more" than Gabbert could or ever can.  Cam could make plays on his own, that most QB's can't.  It was either Gabbert, Darius, Green, Von, PP, or Cam.  It wasn't that hard to make the call, even then.

 

I too was very nervous about Cam, there were just so many red flags, but it was the smart/best pick that we could have made.  DG would have made the same call...IMO.

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The answer is...most likely yes.

 

There were a lot of concerns about Cam coming out of college, a lot of them very real.  That said, if you don't have a QB (we didn't) you can't win consistently in this league.  DG knows this very well.  We had to draft a QB, and when you are looking at the QB's in that draft, Cam was the best pick.

 

Cam can do "more" than Gabbert could or ever can.  Cam could make plays on his own, that most QB's can't.  It was either Gabbert, Darius, Green, Von, PP, or Cam.  It wasn't that hard to make the call, even then.

 

I too was very nervous about Cam, there were just so many red flags, but it was the smart/best pick that we could have made.  DG would have made the same call...IMO.

 

I remember watching Gabbert on whatever that program was that the NFL Network had where coaches worked out potential high picks.  He panicked and threw a couple of balls too early with Steve Mariucci rushing him.  My jaw literally dropped.

 

I was thinking "My word, is this kid really that skittish?  What the heck is he gonna do when Dwight Freeney is rushing him?"

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I remember watching Gabbert on whatever that program was that the NFL Network had where coaches worked out potential high picks.  He panicked and threw a couple of balls too early with Steve Mariucci rushing him.  My jaw literally dropped.

 

I was thinking "My word, is this kid really that skittish?  What the heck is he gonna do when Dwight Freeney is rushing him?"

 

Agreed.  Didn't like him at all.

 

Same category for me as Jonny Football, and Bortles.  No thank you.

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Rivera wanted Cam and was begging for him.  Before that--safe picks--LBs, RBs twice, OL, --even when we needed DTs and WRs.  Hurney had just watched his previously-drafted QB-the "Gem"- crash and burn the season before.  He really did not have too many options.

 

Hurney chose Clausen.  He even spent the night between rounds 1 and 2 on the phone with the Rams (33rd pick)  trying to trade up to get him.  Hurney said he knew that KC or Minnesota would take Clausen before we picked.  He was "shocked" when they both passed on him again in the second--2 teams that needed a QB desperately passed on Clausen in the first AND second round--the same player Hurney was trying to move up to get.  What did they know that Marty didn't?

 

Apparently, a lot.

 

One thing I remember from drafts past: Everytime we took a player that slid (Rae Carruth, Everette Brown, Rashard Anderson, Jimmy Clausen) the ultimate story just about always wound up being "and now we know why" :(

 

Not last year though.  Lotulelei was in contention for defensive rookie of the year.

 

It's funny you mentioning that Hurney was "shocked" when teams passed on Clausen.  By contrast, Gettleman absolutely knew the Jets were going to take Sheldon Richardson, and he was right.  Seems like Gettleman is better at predicting how the draft will fall and what other teams are likely to do.

 

And that's why you make a 'football guy' your GM, not a sports reporter.

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There defense is as close to ours as ours is to Seattle's. Ours is better but they're right on our heels, same way we are with Seattle.

 

I suspect without Mike Zimmer running it, you're gonna see that defense look far more average this year.

 

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Cam was the BPA in the draft. Yes it was debated but everyone and their mum knows Cam was the BPA. It's just like Clowney this year, yes it's being debated, yeah there are questions but we all know he is the BPA.

No, most didn't have him top 10 on their board.

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