Panthers Sign Avant to 1 Year Deal

[WOW!!]

You're missing the point. It's about maximizing your investment. Within the next two years Cam Newton will be the highest paid player on the Carolina Panthers. If you want to win with defense and running the ball while having your qb only throw when needed then go get a Trent Dilfer. I'm not against that philosophy, it can and has worked in the NFL. But the biggest mistake you can make is to have a talent like Cam Newton, pay him 100 million dollars, and stop him before opposing defenses ever get a chance.

People will try but you can't argue with this ^^^.

They need to draft 2 WR'S because you have time to have talent growing with Cam on rookie deals. So while Cam gets paid his weapons will still be on rookie deals until we can get out of this cap situation.

[AceBoogie]

Cotchery def outperformed smitty last year. Avant is a huge upgrade over lafell. Underwood is on par with ginn but has more upside. Idk why ur worried about rookies, our fo has proven the last few years we'll get day 1 starters out of the draft and udfas.

Also I dont understand an earlier post saying we had the tools to win in cams first year. We had no depth along with bottom feeder special teams and defense. Sure Rons coaching style change helped us out, but the roster we currently have is significantly better than what we had in 2011.

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Stop with this Avant is better than Lafell nonsense. Ok yea he's better if we discount receiving yards and touchdowns.

[NFLFangirl19]

Cotchery def outperformed smitty last year. Avant is a huge upgrade over lafell. Underwood is on par with ginn but has more upside. Idk why ur worried about rookies, our fo has proven the last few years we'll get day 1 starters out of the draft and udfas.

Also I dont understand an earlier post saying we had the tools to win in cams first year. We had no depth along with bottom feeder special teams and defense. Sure Rons coaching style change helped us out, but the roster we currently have is significantly better than what we had in 2011.

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Cothchery had 1 year better than Smitty in his entire 10 year career & it just happened to have come last season. WHOOPDEY DOO! I don't think anyone in their right mind is now thinking he's better than him after that. & it wasn't even significantly better smh.

Jason is an upgrade for lafell based off of...?! Avant has been in the league twice as long & still doesn't have as many TDs as him.

Tiquan, I'm not gonna pretend to know anything about except that he was a 3rd/4th tier guy where he came from so he may be just as good as Ginn but were suppose to be upgrading right?

I'm never one to keep up w/ this offseason stuff but I was actually excited to do so this time around coming off the season we had last yr. I'm only saying that to say I'm never aware of the made changes but I know that for the last 3 yrs we've always come within a TD of winning in the majority of our losses. We jus had to find out how to finally win & we did.

[t96]

Exactly.....we had 5 rookies starting at times on last year's defense.

 

Well, playing, not starting. But, yes.

[The Huddler]

Stop with this Avant is better than Lafell nonsense. Ok yea he's better if we discount receiving yards and touchdowns.

Its not about numbers. This isn't fantasy football. Avant is 10x more reliable and consistent than lafell. Avant won't be asked to be our #2 either. Two different roles. Also millions cheaper

[AceBoogie]

Its not about numbers. This isn't fantasy football. Avant is 10x more reliable and consistent than lafell. Avant won't be asked to be our #2 either. Two different roles. Also millions cheaper

Lol ok so now it's not about numbers... WOW!!

[The Huddler]

If it was 4&10 and we need to get a first down or else we lose, I rather chuck the rock at Avant than Lafell. Its that simple. We have an exellant #3, #4.

[WOW!!]

Well, playing, not starting. But, yes.

Star, White, started most of the season. Lester got 6 starts and Klein and Short got some starts in during the season.

All got a lot of playing time.

Example.

Cole got more starts but Short played more snaps.

[The Huddler]

You're acting like stats wins football games. Chud had a bunch of stats. Didn't win games

[teeray]

You're missing the point. It's about maximizing your investment. Within the next two years Cam Newton will be the highest paid player on the Carolina Panthers. If you want to win with defense and running the ball while having your qb only throw when needed then go get a Trent Dilfer. I'm not against that philosophy, it can and has worked in the NFL. But the biggest mistake you can make is to have a talent like Cam Newton, pay him 100 million dollars, and stop him before opposing defenses ever get a chance.

No, you are missing the point. It is about winning, not maximizing investments.

How many Super Bowls have Manning won with all those great offenses? How many have Brees won with those great offenses? Brady has never won a Super Bowl in a year he has thrown more than 28 TDs.

We are doing it right. When you have a QB as talented as Cam you build your defense first. That takes pressure off of Cam. His first two seasons if he had a bad game, we lost.

When you have a great defense, when Cam is clicking you blow people out. When he is struggling you still have a chance to win.

We are trying to build a winning franchise. Not just the offense.

[AceBoogie]

If it was 4&10 and we need to get a first down or else we lose, I rather chuck the rock at Avant than Lafell. Its that simple. We have an exellant #3, #4.

So by your logic Avant is also better than Brandon Marshall right?

[steveAKAslick]

Good signing, I think we are done signing WR's unless a Stevie Johnson type player is cut.

 

I think Stevie would be a nice pickup, but last I heard he was probably gonna stick around...I like the idea of signing the vets (Cotchery and Avant) to mentor and drafting a couple of young guys for those guys to show them the ropes...

[Donald LaFell]

I love reading his wiki page too, seems like a good guy. Reminds me of James Anderson or Jonathan Stewart off the field.

[AceBoogie]

No, you are missing the point. It is about winning, not maximizing investments.

How many Super Bowls have Manning won with all those great offenses? How many have Brees won with those great offenses? Brady has never won a Super Bowl in a year he has thrown more than 28 TDs.

We are doing it right. When you have a QB as talented as Cam you build your defense first. That takes pressure off of Cam. His first two seasons if he had a bad game, we lost.

When you have a great defense, when Cam is clicking you blow people out. When he is struggling you still have a chance to win.

We are trying to build a winning franchise. Not just the offense.

When did I say you should ignore the defensive side of the ball? You guys think I'm the biggest WR supporter on the forum, but I'm firmly against double dipping at any position including WR. It's absolutely about maximizing your investment, let's not forget this is a business. Paying a game manager 100 million dollars is bad business and will handicap this team. You think we're cap strapped now, imagine this team with Cam make 20 million a year and not 5. You guys would be calling for his head with every little mistake.