Ricky Proehl and Don Gregory having dinner with WR Lattimer

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Double post hours later.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

This kid is really, really good.

CBS listed his weaknesses as break away speed and his route running.

I'll give them the route running point since a lot of the routes he runs are just jets (he did throw in a few stunts on those routes though) but I disagree with him not having breakaway speed; I didn't see him get caught once from behind in his highlight tape.

So what we have here is a WR whose only known weakness is route running and our WR coach is known as one of the best pure route runners in NFL history... match made in heaven.

[TheRumGone]

Didn't gettleman say he likes receivers that can run the whole route tree?

[panthermonium]

Latimer ranks as the #1 player I want in this draft. I don't think there is any chance this guy is still there when we are picking in the 2nd round. I would 100% support the 28th pick for him. 

 

 

[Ken]

Don't know that much about Latimer other than what I've read BUT I would be disappointed if he's our pick at #28.

[CPF4LIFE]

I like this guy, wouldn't mind picking him in the first. I read he has been working with Brandon Marshall during the draft process on his weaknesses.

[MHS831]

Scouting report posted this morning for latimer. Calls him a 4-5th round pick who may be drafted higher because of his speed. 1st round seems like a bit of a stretch, no?

"Cody Latimer – Wide Receiver – Indiana

Size – 6025 – 215 – 4.46

Strong Points – Size, speed, top production, hands, ability to adjust to the ball

Weak Points – Coming off a broken bone in his foot, limited route tree, average blocker, has some tightness in his hips, not used inside that much

2013 Stats – 72 receptions, 1096 yards, 9 touchdowns, 135 career receptions, 2012 yards, 17 touchdowns

Summation – Cody is a third-year junior entering the draft as an underclassman. He played as a reserve his first year at Indiana and has been a starter the last two season.

He has excellent size at 6025 – 215. Though still recovering from a broken bone in his foot, he still ran 4.47 in the 40 and had a 39” vertical jump at a limited pro day a few weeks ago.

On tape, he has some athletic limitations. He does not play to that timed speed and also has some tightness in his hips that hurts his ability to get in and out of cuts really quickly. He does not show a quick burst, but he has long speed once under way. He can be effective as a deep receiver.

Indiana plays from a spread offense, and like many spread offenses, Latimer has a limited route tree. He usually lines up outside and runs hitches, comebacks, some bubble screens, and go routes. I have seen him run some inside routes, but the majority are outside the numbers.

Latimer has very good hands and a large receiving radius. He can adjust to the ball, almost always catches the ball in his hands, and can high-point it. After the catch, he tucks the ball away quickly. As a runner, he gets what is there and has strength to get extra yards, but he is not a really elusive runner. As a blocker, Latimer is willing but not consistently effective. He isn’t a really physical player.

With Latimer running and jumping as good as he did, teams are going back for another look. The Indiana scheme does limit him some. An NFL offense will be more suitable to his traits. He will need to improve his route running. Part of that will be learning to sink his hips and get in and out of cuts more quickly. There is no question that he has upside.

Latimer has talent, and while he will need time to develop, I see him as an eventual starter in the league. I have not seen anything on tape that shows me that he would be a good special teams' player while he is developing. With his size and leaping ability, he may be used right away as a red zone receiver.

I see Cody as a good fourth-to-fifth round receiver, but the speed he showed in a limited workout may get him drafted higher (third round).

Grade – B 6.5"

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/NFL-Prospect-Focus-Donte-Moncrief-and-Cody-Latimer.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

 

thanks for sharing..  They lost me when they listed as a weakness "average blocker."  He is one of the best blocking WRs I have seen.

 

[MHS831]

Don't know that much about Latimer other than what I've read BUT I would be disappointed if he's our pick at #28.

A few years ago, in March, I made the same comment about Kuechly when I read a ridiculous article about drafting him (we had

 beason).

 

Take a few minutes and watch the Indy Mich St game.  I would be really interested to hear what you think.

 

[MHS831]

Let's look at what we know. 

 

WRs we are known to have brought in/met with:

1. Jared Abbrederis (a possession WR who is never going to be a #1--a third or fourth rounder)
2. Kevin Norwood (really?  maybe an undrafted free agent contact)
3. Brandin Cooks (predicted to be drafted in the second half of the first round)
4. Marqise Lee (predicted to be drafted in the second half of the first round)
5. Cody Lattimer (who knows, but he has been predicted between the lower half of the first round and the fourth round)

 

There is a pattern.  Where are the second-round WRs (Matthews, Robinson, etc?) Three possible first rounders where we will be picking.  3 of them.

 

If that does not convince you of anything, who are the OTs we have flirted with?

1. Morgan Moses (late first-second round)
2. Billy Turner (second to third rounder)
3. Brandon Thomas  (LT at Clemson projects to G--2nd rounder before injury)
4. Dakota Dozier  (LT at Furman projects to G; 2nd-3rd rounder)

No Cyrus (good), Richardson (good again) or any other clear-cut first rounder.  Moses has the possibility to be a first rounder, but the focus seems to be on finding value in a tweener after the first round.  In NY, the Giants never drafted OL early (Snee an exception). 

 

If we are probably taking a T or WR in the first round, is there at least a muddy pattern here that reflects Gettlemen's thinking?   I think there is.

 

 

 

[top dawg]

That is good news. I like him in the 3rd. 

 

 

(1) LEE / COOKS / ODELL / BENJAMIN

(2) BITONIO / TURNER

(3) LATIMER

 

 

With all the attention he is getting do you think he will be there for us in the 3rd?

 

 

Yeah, I can't see him going in the first. Not over guys like OBJ/Matthews/Benjamin/etc. I think he might be gone by our pick at the end of the third round, but I wouldn't take him before then.

 

 

Recent news on Latimer is basically telling us that there is no way Latimer is going to be available in the third round.  I didn't realize that he had had foot surgery in January, but apparently that didn't stop him from running a 4.44 40 and jumping 39 vertical inches during his pro day.  It's not a stretch to say that this 6'2" highly productive receiver could go before a much more raw Kelvin Benjamin.

 

Realize it or not, this kid has put himself in the conversation.

[Ken]

A few years ago, in March, I made the same comment about Kuechly when I read a ridiculous article about drafting him (we had

 beason).

 

Take a few minutes and watch the Indy Mich St game.  I would be really interested to hear what you think.

 

 

Not really a comparison because Luke was always seen as a 1st rounder top 10-25 pick. Cody has always been a mid round guy.(3rd to 4th range)

 

Only 1 game(sample size) and I know most of the snaps we went up against Dennard, but he didn't really stand out as a 1st rounder to me. I like his size, caught the ball really well and his blocking was phenomenal but didn't really have that burst off the line that you'd want with a high pick WR. 

[Mr. Scot]

I would love to see the Panthers draft him in the first or second, but don't read too much into the 'dinner' thing.

 

Back in 2006, John Fox and Marty Hurney had dinner with LenDale White and Darnell Bing.  When Draft Day arrived, they picked DeAngelo Williams in the first (White was still on the board) and Nate Salley in the 4th (Bing was also taken in the 4th, but 20 picks ahead of Salley).

 

For those who remember, that was when Hurney supposedly told White not to run the 40.

[MHS831]

Not really a comparison because Luke was always seen as a 1st rounder top 10-25 pick. Cody has always been a mid round guy.(3rd to 4th range)

 

Only 1 game(sample size) and I know most of the snaps we went up against Dennard, but he didn't really stand out as a 1st rounder to me. I like his size, caught the ball really well and his blocking was phenomenal but didn't really have that burst off the line that you'd want with a high pick WR. 

 

He doesn't seem to be a 4.4 guy--it is like he doesn't open up the throttle.  Thanks for the feedback.  I have trouble gauging WRs from college to pro.

 

I don't see mid-round either, at least for us. His skill set is a very nice fit here.  Maybe they are thinking Cooks/Lee in the first, Lattimer later.  He runs a 4.4, has good hands, blocks well,, and is 6/2" tall.

 

I can say that the WR crop has never been better in the late first through the second round.  Robinson, Matthews, Adams, Moncrief, etc.  are solid second round guys.

[MHS831]

I would love to see the Panthers draft him in the first or second, but don't read too much into the 'dinner' thing.

 

Back in 2006, John Fox and Marty Hurney had dinner with LenDale White and Darnell Bing.  When Draft Day arrived, they picked DeAngelo Williams in the first (White was still on the board) and Nate Salley in the 4th (Bing was also taken in the 4th, but 20 picks ahead of Salley).

 

For those who remember, that was when Hurney supposedly told White not to run the 40.

 

Memories.  I thought we were taking Lendale White too.  Maybe taking him to dinner was a good idea.  "Three Whoppers, please."