Marqise Lee Visiting Panthers

[Panthers8969]

I like statistics. I know they aren't perfect, but I like to look at them for prospects and they give me an idea of what a guy can do in the numbers category of the game. These charts show his upside, as well as my hesitation towards him.

Chart 1 - Where on the field they caught the ball the most.

He does not seem to be one that takes the top off of a defense as a deep threat, however he seems to be more of a possession guy. Nothing wrong with that. If we use underwood as a deep threat or sign jacoby ford, Lee could thrive as a possession guy.

Chart 2 - What they did after they caught it

Our WR's run deeper routes due to the system we run. Not sure how he fits into that scheme, but maybe shula wants to run more quick routes for our WR's this year than we did last year to possibly help mask the O-line not being able to protect Cam as well as they did this past season.

Chart 3 - How they caught it and what routes they ran

Not necessarily a bad thing, but he, to me at least, does not have the kind of elite elusiveness that would allow him to get the kind of YAC he did in college against the juggernauts of the NFL. Those quick slants allowed him to do his thing, but can he do his thing in the pros as well as he did in college?

Chart 4 - The dropsies

My biggest concern about Lee. He has the highest drop rate of any of the "Top" receivers this draft class. That scares the poo out of me. It's why we all hated LaFell and why we lost the Arizona game. Drops kill drives. A receiver's main job is to catch the ball, and if he doesn't do that well, he isn't a very good receiver.

Entire Article can be found here. He has another one with the "second" tier of WRs in this draft class. I would have cooks as a top talent, but that's just me. Both interesting statistical looks at all the top WR's prospects. Both articles were posted on the huddle earlier this year, but in case anyone forgot, I thought I would link to them again.

I'm really interested to see if Allen Robinson ends up being something special. Statistics wise, he's one of the most solid Receivers in the draft. I would be happy if we ended up with him.

Yes. These are the stats and charts I was talking about. After seeing this no way anyone still thinks we should take lee, let alone the best in the draft

[nagai]

Hold your horses gentleman, were these stats based solely on the 2013 season? The writer didn't make this clear. If that's the case, that's hardly sufficient reason to knock Lee a lot lower on your draft board. We know he didn't play well in 2013 -- multiple injuries, bad QB play, coaching changes, and plain trying too hard all played a part in his lower production. The only type statistical analyses of Lee I want to see involves his 2012 stats as well, not just 2013.

[Ricky Spanish]

Hold your horses gentleman, were these stats based solely on the 2013 season? The writer didn't make this clear. If that's the case, that's hardly sufficient reason to knock Lee a lot lower on your draft board. We know he didn't play well in 2013 -- multiple injuries, bad QB play, coaching changes, and plain trying too hard all played a part in his lower production. The only type statistical analyses of Lee I want to see involves his 2012 stats as well, not just 2013.

 

guy on the site states that there are multiple contributing factors to why the player's stats are the way they are, including QB play and injuries. He himself admits it's not the end all to be all of grading a prospect, and I agree. It's just a fun, different way to look at things, to me at least. 

[R0CKnR0LLA]

go ahead and pick out his locker

[C47]

Those WR stats have a lot to do with QB play and playcalling. If you're too simple minded to see that IDK what to say....

[C47]

Hold your horses gentleman, were these stats based solely on the 2013 season? The writer didn't make this clear. If that's the case, that's hardly sufficient reason to knock Lee a lot lower on your draft board. We know he didn't play well in 2013 -- multiple injuries, bad QB play, coaching changes, and plain trying too hard all played a part in his lower production. The only type statistical analyses of Lee I want to see involves his 2012 stats as well, not just 2013.

 

Yes it's 2013 only. If we only looked at 2012 some of you idiots would be calling Watkins a bust....

[uscgamecocks]

Yes it's 2013 only. If we only looked at 2012 some of you idiots would be calling Watkins a bust....

And if you only looked at Sammy's stats vs. South Carolina he'd be a third day prospect. But sample size and context matter, so Sammy is deservedly a top 5 pick. I hope other NFL teams overlook Lee in the draft so that we can grab him at 28.

[Thompcat]

I'm just not sold on him. Call it the USC effect or the injury ( which he is not injury prone)that have me not really wanting him. I want a sure handed tall guy or guys for Cam, but the dilemma is that it not one to be deserving of the 28 spot

[Soul Rebel]

I hear ya on people not being sold on Lee. It's the same for me with Cooks...throw as many stats and vids as you want, but Cooks is my least favorite of the Big 7 WRs in the first round.

[SOJA]

I am pretty sure that Jarrett and Lee have much more not in common than in common.

 

1.  DNA--different

2. Body styles---different

3. Intelligence---much different

4. Coaching Staff at USC---different

5. USC team uniform----same

 

 

but what if Lee is drafted by the Panthers and takes number 80? WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW

[QCkilla]

Isn't that the huddle way.

Touche

[iamhubby1]

Those WR stats have a lot to do with QB play and playcalling. If you're too simple minded to see that IDK what to say....

I was with you until you called me simple minded. You made a decent valid point. Then threw it all away.

I am not a big Lee fan. But if you can live with him dropping 1 out of every 8 passes...

[Jackofalltrades]

I was with you until you called me simple minded. You made a decent valid point. Then threw it all away.

I am not a big Lee fan. But if you can live with him dropping 1 out of every 8 passes...

Because he can't possible improve his drop rate. He peaked in college.

[Riverboat Ron]

Huddle meltdown when New Orleans takes him at #27.