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McNabb weighs in on our lack of a threat at WR (via D. Newton)


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Actually, I was partially agreeing with you. But I don't know why I quoted you.

McNabb certainly knows what he is talking about. But I wouldn't necessarily think we are going 6-10 next season either.

I expect our defense to carry us to a better record than that.

yeah I kind of felt like u were agreeing & not agreeing at the same time. i say we'd be lucky go 9-7 this yr & we won't make the playoffs that's for sure
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It depends on who we draft and how they play out. I think the issue here is having to rely on unproven players so heavily. No chemistry, no continuity, just banking on potential.

You talk about playing madden? That's essentially what Gettleman is doing, just plugging in guys at WR hoping they fit.

You can't paint every draftee with the same broad brush.  For example some programs where receivers play a spread offense and they don't run the whole route tree produce receivers who are raw and need significant time to improve.  Some guys come from NFL style programs and know how to get off the line and run the whole tree so their learning curve is much shorter and they can contribute more quickly.

 

As for our veterans Underwood is actually a decent receiver who averaged 20 yards a reception and a TD every 6 catches.  He just didn't get enough work and Glennon was not the right quarterback to show off his speed and ability to get deep.  On the other hand Cam is exactly what he needed and he is going to have a big year.  You heard it first.  I also think Cotchery is going to surprise some folks this year.  I honestly don't think we are as bad off as you do and frankly think we will add a receiver or two after the draft when teams who added high draft picks decide to let some of their vets go.  So no this isn't Madden because that is where you just add who you want and build ridiculous teams without worrying about the realities of the NFL...What Gettleman is doing is adding players to try and be competitive while really looking down the road in a year or two.  I an waiting to see what happens.  I wish you would too.  There will be plenty of time to bitch all summer without doing it all Spring.  Too bad if we end up being decent that we had to put up with all the whining for months.

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History tells us that a 35 year old receiver won't do poo. History tells us LaFell will never amount to poo. History tells us Ginn is a bust that got overpaid by a shortsighted team. History also told us that Mike Mitchell was a personal foul machine and a wtf were they thinking type signing. Our receivers were known garbage. I'd rather see what we have and maybe they'll be garbage than to trot out the same garbage that isn't magically going to get better.

LOL, boy this season is going to be funny. You and the Gettleman fan boys better hope those WRS that left don't ball out.

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You can't paint every draftee with the same broad brush. For example some programs where receivers play a spread offense and they don't run the whole route tree produce receivers who are raw and need significant time to improve. Some guys come from NFL style programs and know how to get off the line and run the whole tree so their learning curve is much shorter and they can contribute more quickly.

As for our veterans Underwood is actually a decent receiver who averaged 20 yards a reception and a TD every 6 catches. He just didn't get enough work and Glennon was not the right quarterback to show off his speed and ability to get deep. On the other hand Cam is exactly what he needed and he is going to have a big year. You heard it first. I also think Cotchery is going to surprise some folks this year. I honestly don't think we are as bad off as you do and frankly think we will add a receiver or two after the draft when teams who added high draft picks decide to let some of their vets go. So no this isn't Madden because that is where you just add who you want and build ridiculous teams without worrying about the realities of the NFL...What Gettleman is doing is adding players to try and be competitive while really looking down the road in a year or two. I an waiting to see what happens. I wish you would too. There will be plenty of time to bitch all summer without doing it all Spring. Too bad if we end up being decent that we had to put up with all the whining for months.

Y'all said the same thing about my whining last preseason about how the offense sucked then guess what happened?, and it's worse off now than at this point last year.

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He right. I mean there is no other way to put it. I've never seen a franchise do less to help there franchise qb. This is why in Carolina we can't have nice things. Why we lack superstars even in basketball. The conservative approach thats afraid to make mistakes will only get you so far. If you go bpa every damn year sure u ll land solid guys but your only covering up the same ole scab. Nevermind the festering wound at wr thats been there since moose left. Or why byron bell may be the best tackle on the roster.

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Who is that in New England?

How about Seattle?

Pittsburgh?

Green Bay?

 

I have to disagree with you a little here.  

 

It will pretty much be my contention forever that the Pats' inability to keep Brady a big play threat over the years has cost them a couple of championships.

 

Like it or not, Golden Tate is a legit play maker. I think that he is woefully undervalued (as well as Doug Baldwin), and you will see this even more now that he is playing in an offense that will air the ball out.  Now, granted your response wasn't to this argument, but I am confident that a team can win a Super Bowl with guys that don't have to be so-called No. 1 receivers, but legitimate play makers that can burn you by putting up No. 1 like numbers on any given Sunday. Guys like Randall Cobb and Jordy Nelson are prefect examples.  Cobb was hurt the lion's share of last season, and Nelson pretty much rose to the occasion. Speaking of rising to the occasion, Antonio Brown put up significant numbers as the "top dog" that McNabb says every team needs (not that Brown was chopped liver in the first place). 

 

Lastly, it's not like these teams are necessarily going to rest on their laurels offensively.  The Steelers are reportedly considering adding a receiving threat (maybe Kelvin Benjamin), and Seattle is not only counting on Harvin to be healthy this year, they are also trying to bring Sidney Rice back into the fold. The Seahawks and Pats were interested in 89, so don't be surprised to see them draft a threat at wide-out. The Pats are reportedly interested in some of the very same receivers that we are, as well as Mike Evans.  And, like I alluded to earlier, the Packers have two legitimate threats at receiver already.

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People are always bringing up the Pats, but for them having been in the mix as much as they have, they should have (and probably would have) won more championships if they had given Brady the weapons that he deserved.  Sorry, I don't want to be the Pats. I'd rather be the Steelers or Giants.  The Pats have arguably wasted Brady's potential more than the Eagles wasted McNabb's potential by refusing to give him a threat that maximized his talent.

 

That's just the way I see it.

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LOL, boy this season is going to be funny. You and the Gettleman fan boys better hope those WRS that left don't ball out.

Then the next post you talk about how you bitched about a sucky offense last pre-season. The WR's that left aren't worth what they recently got. We've made room to rebuild the WR corps. I'd prefer to get the draft and pre-season in before I bitch about weapons.
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One thing that almost no one is talking about is how the people who are on the roster now don't even have to be here at the start of the season, or even if they are may not be here come the end of October.  The only receiver that we can really assume will be here is Jerricho Cotchery.  Everyone else in the conversation like Underwood, McNutt and King don't even have to be here.  There spots could easily be taken by a legitimate play maker (or two) that's drafted, or from another team's cuts.  If we double or triple dip at WR, and are lucky enough to get a(n) UDFA gem, then this whole corps could look markedly different than what we're all expecting.

 

Some of the McNutt, King and Underwood talk may ultimately end up as nothing, just like all the praise of Armanti Edwards last year. 

 

It's all about competition and the best man winning. No room for dead weight.

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If Gettleman doesn't think we need a number 1 receiver then why are we working out all of the first round receivers?

Based on our workouts thus far, I'd say it's more likely than not we end up going WR early in this draft. If we spend a 1st on a guy he's going to be the #1 by midseason.

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If Gettleman doesn't think we need a number 1 receiver then why are we working out all of the first round receivers?

Based on our workouts thus far, I'd say it's more likely than not we end up going WR early in this draft. If we spend a 1st on a guy he's going to be the #1 by midseason.

Gettleman and Rivera are playing word games with the term # 1 wr.

 

I would describe our situation as we have a number 3 and 4 wr and that is it......and yes I know it is early

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DT was horrible for years and then in one draft it became a strength. this draft is stacked at WR just like last years was stacked at DT. it's almost like DG planned this all along and knows what he's doing huh?

 

oh man, you and your fanboy clones. Why are you giving DG time to prove himself? just stop already, you really embarrassing yourselves and Panther nation.

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