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D. Newton: Rivera is right. We don't need a number 1 WR. / OK, OK...


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he's got hands and he's fast he's reminds me of a stronger  Djax/ weaker Smitty but with better hands than either. I think he'll stretch the field but he'll have trouble in the redzone because of his size. 

 

He definitely has playmaker ability in him.  Now my personal choice on who to draft at 28 would be Jordan Matthews.  Yet the Panthers have shown a lot of interest in Cooks, so I wouldn't be surprised if we drafted him.

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He definitely has playmaker ability in him.  Now my personal choice on who to draft at 28 would be Jordan Matthews.  Yet the Panthers have shown a lot of interest in Cooks, so I wouldn't be surprised if we drafted him.

 

 

yeah matthews has all the tools and great hands plus he's tall i wouldnt be mad if we got him at all. Honestly i almost want us to get a o-lineman in the 1st round just to give cam some breathing room

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This is moronic in every way. Anyone who would say such things about or offense while having knowledge of our current situation is just ignorant. You contradict pretty much everything with your "Within the cap a drafty restraints" line. THIS IS FIXING the offense with the restraints we currently have...wow...

 

We obviously need talent on offense, but all we can do is pick from the extreme bargain bin at the moment

 

And anyone saying Nicks/Britt would be gamechangers/ worth it....good lord, just stop.

 

Let me try this again: I am not addressing or passing opinion on our GM or FO. He gets paid the big bucks and it is his job that is on the line. I will await the results.

 

Specifically, I am addressing and passing judgment on those Panthers fans on this board who have expressed a notion that we do not need to address glaring weaknesses. That we should not even ATTEMPT/TRY to upgrade certain areas of our team because: the Seahawks had that weakness and they won the SB.

 

In other words, there are some who believe EVEN if we can acquire and fit a player within our limitations---cap and draft---we should not. They believe that said player would upgrade the position, nonetheless do not want to acquire said player because they believe it is okay to be mediocre at that position.

 

That is nonsense.

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The funny thing is when considering our offense, we're going to get similar production from Cotchery as we would have by overpaying Jones or whoever.  Add on the fact he's a mentor type and was a rather inexpensive signing, we're in strong shape heading into the draft.  

 

 

 

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Cobb and Nelson are definitely number ones

 

Its really hard to explain, but I have said on multiple occasions that:

 

The Jaguars have a number 1

Packers don't have a number 1

The Eagles (with Jackson) do not have a number 1

The Dolphins (admittedly not a great one) have a number 1 

 

IMO, being a number 1 is not singular about production. Welker could have more receptions and yards and TDs than Moss in NE but I would say that Moss is number 1.

 

Also, it doesn't mean you cannot be productive without a number 1...the Packers and Eagles had two of the better offenses...the Jaguars and Dolphins had two of the poorer offenses.

 

To me, being a number 1 entails body size, athletic ability, production, and speed. A person you can plug into any offense and should produce and should have some measure of success against any type of defense.

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Its really hard to explain, but I have said on multiple occasions that:

 

The Jaguars have a number 1

Packers don't have a number 1

The Eagles (with Jackson) do not have a number 1

The Dolphins (admittedly not a great one) have a number 1 

 

IMO, being a number 1 is not singular about production. Welker could have more receptions and yards and TDs than Moss in NE but I would say that Moss is number 1.

 

Also, it doesn't mean you cannot be productive without a number 1...the Packers and Eagles had two of the better offenses...the Jaguars and Dolphins had two of the poorer offenses.

 

To me, being a number 1 entails body size, athletic ability, production, and speed. A person you can plug into any offense and should produce and should have some measure of success against any type of defense.

 

well you sure have a unique definition of a #1 receiver lol.

 

jags: agreed, although i think blackmon definitely has the talent to be one if he cleans himself up.

packers: jordy nelson is without a doubt a #1 receiver. he has it all.... literally every credential you listed describes jordy nelson. i'm on the fence with cobb, i think he can be a #1

eagles: djax is a #1 no doubt

dolphins: wallace is a bottom tier #1

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You want a receiver with good hands look a McNutt. He had a horrible QB. You want speed look at King his QB never hit him in stride on the deep ball. You want a receiver to be tall and able to play the ball, look at both of them. They are our receivers from last years draft. Maybe not household names but, Smitty wasn't until year 4,5, or 6. Give the kids a chance.

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You want a receiver with good hands look a McNutt. He had a horrible QB. You want speed look at King his QB never hit him in stride on the deep ball. You want a receiver to be tall and able to play the ball, look at both of them. They are our receivers from last years draft. Maybe not household names but, Smitty wasn't until year 4,5, or 6. Give the kids a chance.

 

They should get their chance this season to show some growth. Both are unknown quantities. As long as they can come in and contribute when called upon, and, better yet, rise to the occasion as opposed to recede from it like some we have had, I'll be the first in line to sing their praises.

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he's a 1000+ yard receiver on a heavily run focused team. he is by all means a #1 receiver.

 

and davis >>>>>>>>>> olsen

 

Crabtree is so overrated (no I am not Sherman)

 

And obviously Davis is better than Olsen, but my point is depending on the scheme your team runs anyone can technically be your #1 option. You don't need a top 10 wr. So depending on our offense, Olsen could be the primary target. As long as he is reliable. You can get cheap guys to stretch the field. I feel like this year, barring a home run in the draft, thats what we will need to settle with. Everyone;s annoying whining on a message board won't change our teams financial situation.

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