Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

D. Newton: Rivera is right. We don't need a number 1 WR. / OK, OK...


top dawg

Recommended Posts

I am getting about tired of the "No. 1" receiver talk at this point.  The term "number 1" has become somewhat irrelevant at this point at worst, and just a lesson in semantics at best. 

 

LINK

So if you count the borderline players, only 19 of 32 teams had a No. 1 receiver in 2013. If you don't count them, only 12 did. 

Not among the 12 were Super Bowl champion Seattle, NFC South champion Carolina, AFC East champion New England, AFC South champion Indianapolis and NFC wild-card team New Orleans. 

Those teams were a collective 59-21 during the regular season. 

Of the 12 teams that had bona fide No. 1s, seven finished .500 or worse. Detroit, Houston, Cleveland, Atlanta and Tampa Bay were a collective 21-59. Of the four teams with true No. 1s that made the playoffs, two lost in the first round. 

So when Rivera says he's not worried, he really isn't. Neither should those following Carolina, although many of you have been since the Panthers released Steve Smith

 

Of course what actually defines a No. 1 receiver is up to debate, which has lessened the importance of the need for these receivers that are pretty much universally accepted as studs.

 

Successful offenses are more about successful schemes and balance. The teams that achieve balance typically don't need a true No. 1. 

"The thing that we had to look at is we have a good group of young guys that we feel need to get opportunities,'' Rivera said. "We’ve got the draft, and there’s no secret that at some point if we’ve got a chance to draft a wide receiver we are going to do it.” 

The bottom line, to be a top team you don't have to have a top receiver.

 

 

 

OK, Ok, I get that we don't need a true No. 1 receiver in regards to certain definitions. That being said, we do need what I refer to as legit threats at receiver to "take it to the house" on every down, or at least get big chunks of yardage on any given play. The Panthers, as well as every other team, needs play-makers.

 

T.Y. Hilton may not be considered a No. 1 WR right now, but he will burn you.  Golden Tate is another guy in that same vein.  Some don't consider Antonio Brown a true No. 1, but he will eat you alive if left alone, as will Torrey Smith, Marques Colston, Randall Cobb, etc.  So I don't care what you call these types of WRs, we need legitimate play-makers. And, not just one.  We need wide-outs who will rise to the occasion and make plays when the situation arises.  Call them a No.1, No. 2 or whatever. Adept play-makers and play calling is what will help get us to the top, and keep us there. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

They make it sound as if we're lining up with an empty slot. Like, " we don't need a #1 wr so we're figured we'd just line up with 10 guys." I wonder what would happen if all the recievers contributed equally? Maybe you wouldn't end up with a guy like megatron that dictates 60% of your salary?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

We don't need a star receiver, all we need is someone who is a credible threat to get open.  A strong offensive line will mean far more than a burner on the outside.  Give Cam time, and we can move the ball even with Keary Colbert 2.0.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The thing that people should actually be getting pumped about is that we have Ricky Proehl and Jerricho Cotchery here to groom a new generation of Panther wide receivers.  We haven't had much of this in past regimes to help mold some decent wideouts. 

 

From everything I've read, we targeted early and brought in Cotchery to not just produce on the field but be a mentor.  This says it all:

 

 

 

"Jerricho was somebody that we targeted early," Rivera said. "We signed Cotchery to be the veteran guy leading that group of receivers, helping to develop the young guys. We also signed him because we believe he has got a few really good years left.

 

http://www.panthers.com/news/article-2/Rivera-Headed-in-right-direction/372ba3b3-ba5a-4878-8896-18ec48c210fc

 

We're gonna be getting at least one WR in the draft at some point.  It's also clear Gettleman/Rivera see something in King and McNutt.  

 

They did well with White, Lester, and our rookies last season so I'm going with it again.  Add on the fact we brought in a good offensive mind in Ramsdell to a large capacity and it's not so doom and gloom.  Rather exciting.   

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Teams don't need a #1 receiver, yet every year teams chomp at the bit to get a guy like Watkins or Green in the draft. If not needing #1, game-breaking receiver is a real thing, then we should be able to et Sammy Watkins, because he'll fall to us.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

A good core that has a balance of skills is so much more valuable than a "1"

Give me 3 guys that compliment each other and play within the scheme than some presumed #1.

So, you'd take McNutt, Cotchery, and underwood over megatron?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Did I say they were a good core?

And Megatron is #1 times 10. Teams have #1s that aren't superstars

Even then, I'd rather have 3 good, established, system WRs than one really good one. Spread the ball around

lol. ok.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/12642811-can-i-change-the-name-on-my-cruise-reservation-guest-service-24hr-short
    • I'm not a fan for a couple reasons. You have to nail your 1st 2 picks, especially when you're lacking as much talent across the board as we were and you traded away the number 1 overall pick. Barring injury, they need to be immediate 4 year starters, and on this team, that's a pretty low bar to hurdle. I also really hated the FA strategy building up to the draft, particularly the guards, and the draft strategy itself. A strategy that focused on building around a QB that was so terrible he had no business being on the field. It was clear to pretty much everyone, BY wasn't ready to be an NFL starter. We dumped everything to build around him in the hopes he would become what we drafted him to be. And while the end of the year started showing some promise, we still don't know going into year 3 if he's going to live up to the hype. Dumping all your resources to build around a single player (and hope for the best) isn't as important as building a complete team.  If there's any certainty in drafting, it's HQ interior linemen are found in rounds 2-3, and even 4 pretty regularly. Dumping a ton of FA cash into those 2 spots didn't make sense when we have so many holes. Draft guards, pay tackles. It's one of the staple principles of oline building.  XL was always a project. He didn't have years of consistent high end performance in college. His hands are bricks, he body catches a lot, and he looks more like a 4th round receiver than a 1st. Maybe he improves, maybe not. He looked extremely raw as a rookie and we can only hope he might develop by the time his rookie contract expires. I'm always a fan of drafting guys that actually have hands coming out of college. Who cares if you can get open, or fight for the ball, when you can't actually come down with it consistently.  Then we get to Brooks. Taking a RB with a torn ACL who may or may not see the field in 24/25 over Zach Frasier, who already looks the vet at a position we've been severely deficient at since pre-injury Ryan Kalil. Relying on Corbett, coming off injury, to move from guard to center is never ideal, and the injury bug bit yet again, and we were scrambling trying to find someone to lead our 200m offensive line. And the worst part, we traded up to do it giving up 2 5ths to take Brooks when we're lacking talent everywhere.  Wallace, meh. Sanders looked good before that neck injury. But now we're into day 3 where expectations aren't extremely high for making the roster, unless it's the Panthers, but you can find some position players and rotational players to start plugging the Swiss cheese roster.  I give him credit for getting Coker as an UDFA and the trade for Jackson, but if that's the highlight of your draft, there's some serious problems with your drafting.  If we had saved the FA money spent on the guards, drafted JPJ and Frazier, and still been in pretty close to the same spot, better off cash wise (or spent on other FAs) going into FA this year. Coker ended up playing better than XL in less time. Brooks is Eric Shelton 2.0 right now. And we used 5 picks in the 1st 2 rounds, if you count those included in the trades. That's too much given up for a team that won 2 games the year prior. JMO, but I think the whole offseason strategy last year was flawed from start to finish.  
    • Everything hinges on his ability to build through the draft so it's unknown until we see the upcoming draft class in action. That's all that will ultimately matter. We cannot afford anymore duds or projects especially in the early rounds.
×
×
  • Create New...