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Desean Jackson released *update* Rivera interested *UPDATE X2* Rivera interest was a smokescreen?!

Cary Kollins

By Cary Kollins,
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Knowing people who are in gangs isn't the same as "gang ties". Saying he has "ties" indicates some level of involvement.

If all we're talking about is friends who are in gangs, that wouldn't bother me.

If he's the least bit involved in their activities though, even from far away, not interested.

They are friends, not ties. He's just being accused, guilty by association.

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sweet thread guys...

 

I don't know if he is a good idea, but its much more affordable now that he doesn't come with that giant price tag

 

He seems to be injury prone in the past....based on the years I drafted him for fantasy ;)

 

also, this has probably been mentioned, but I don't have time to read through the whole thread- anyone else think its very interesting that we are bringing in people like RHarper and considering DJax all the sudden?

 

Past years, we have always turned our nose up to guys like that because "Jerry only drafted or picked up non-thugs without sketchy pasts or run-ins with the law, drugs, etc."

 

Now we seem to be open to everyone----- soooo who was pulling the strings all those years? Marty or Jerry? Looks to me like Dave is laying down the law

 

Jerry. If we are going to start taking more risks on qualified players with a history, GOOD. It's time we leave the squeaky clean image we've had. The same can be made for the Bobcats. The Bible Belt has such a huge affect on the South and my 18 years in Charlotte saw just how timid of a city it is. I'd love for the Panthers to bring in some guys with skill AND badassary. We had it with Mike Mitchell, but he's gone now. I'd love to see DG give this team an edge. Wake up the quiet fanbase at games, get the team a reputation for being tough. This is a man's game. Not a boy's game.

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Well ... since the huddle is saying no, it probably has a better than 50% chance of happening.

 

I don't read too much into the timing of his release and gang activity.  Speculation and media fodder.  A lot of quality players are released well ahead of the draft.  It probably had more to do with his contract and nobody wanting to be on the hook for that much $$$$. 

 

That said, I've read other places that he has connections to Cam.  Unlike Nicks, he is a true #1 and would probably like to be paired with Cam on a team with our defense.  Short of a stud LT coming available, this makes sense if we are going to spend money.  The deal can be structured so it doesn't cripple us in the first couple years.  Add a stud OL and another WR in rds. 1-3 ... and we're getting back on track. 

 

 

 

You sign Jackson, No need to get another WR. S Jax, JC, Hair will be more productive than SS, Lafell, Ginn, and Hixon this past year. 

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I don't know.  Dude has a clean record.  Is he guilty by association because of some pictures?  The NFL will have more ways to find out for sure if he is in a gang.  We can only speculate.  Innocent before guilty or fug it, he's dirty.  Now the Diva wanting pay raises all the time scares me.

Oh I agree and that is why I said if he had a gang affiliation. I understand some of these players were affiliated earlier in life. 

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Knowing people who are in gangs isn't the same as "gang ties". Saying he has "ties" indicates some level of involvement.

If all we're talking about is friends who are in gangs, that wouldn't bother me.

If he's the least bit involved in their activities though, even from far away, not interested.

I think most of know that unfortunately I don't think the media does or cares about that distinction

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Glad to see that you were able to not fall victim to that lifestyle. I could only imagine how tough it was to grow up in that environment and the intestinal fortitude that it took to go a different direction.

Funny you say that. I remember probably 12 years ago I was in county jail working in the reception area. This is where people from the courts and city lockups and highway patrol arrests all come to be screened before they go into general population. They screen for TB, find out your race and gang affiliations, etc.

So I remember mopping the floor and seeing a whiteboard next to a cell and it has a giant D/O written on it. This means dropout which basically means you quit the gang you were in, which needless to say is all bad for you. At that point in my life I was conditioned to look at dropouts as garbage, and so I went to look into the cell and it was a guy I used to hang out daily years before named Manuel.

I say Manny wtf you are a dropout?! He tells me that he'd been in San Quentin the past 4 years and he had a week to go until he went home and the powers that be told him to murder his cell mate. Obviously this would mean life in prison for him and he wouldn't do it so he dropped out and was then a target.

That poo really hit home for me and made me think fug that poo I'm never gonna be in anybody's pocket like that to let them control my life. Had I not seen him who knows where I'd be today, because that was something powerful that really woke me up. Luckily I wasn't actually in a gang, just known as a loved one and family member, so me going in another direction was never a threat to my life or anything like that, but yeah, it's EASY to get caught in the trap man.

I'll get a letter once in a blue moon but other than that I don't even associate with any of those guys anymore, especially after my wife's lil bro was killed. I'm way cool on that, I'll go to work, get my check, and take my family out to a halfway decent meal from time to time and call it a life.

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I don't think this gang affiliation stuff is as big of a deal as people are making it out to be. I'm willing to bet Smitty had his fair share of gang connections, being from the hood in LA and all.

Get it done Gman.

 

Big difference to me of knowing someone in gangs from when you were younger and still being tied to and hanging out with them now.

 

You hang around with that element eough and you will get in trouble.

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Just to play devil's advocate here, Snoop Dogg is a known Crip member. He has had his picture taken (and much more) with countless NFL players.

Uh it's snoop lion now

But I think there is a difference because he is more of a celebrity. Not saying it's right but he seems to have made a change in lifestyle. Don't know though

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