Rivera says Cam wasn't consulted in WR moves

[Silent Majority]

This fanbase is full up with "go along, to get along" types. No matter how much some of you are trying to force the "humans are a commodity" angle...that DOES NOT MAKE IT SO! You have to find a medium between business and respecting your performers.

[heel31ok]

I do believe he's that type of guy, but at the same time this organization(and this isn't on Gettleman, YET)hasn't proven that they are capable of building around him. Now you have a new GM in Gettleman who released Steve Smith, failed to retain Ginn, and failed to sign a young WR in Nicks. And also has failed to bring in quality offensive line talent. He values Greg Hardy over those moves that could have been made so it has to work for him.

The offseason should be about improvement and there's no doubt that as of right now this offense is worse than it was at this point last year. I heard the main priority this offseason was to surround Cam with talent, has that happened? Regardless of what the calendar says, it's going to be hard to do going forward.

If I'm Cam I'm not too confident right now, especially since it appears he doesn't know what's going on. That's why I believe he should at least be briefed on what the plan is going forward

i have to hope he is that kind of guy because if not his contract and Luke's will keep us as bottom of the barrell bargain hunters for a long time. we will be rehabbing FA prospects for other team for years.

[BlackCnqstdr]

I do believe he's that type of guy, but at the same time this organization(and this isn't on Gettleman, YET)hasn't proven that they are capable of building around him. Now you have a new GM in Gettleman who released Steve Smith, failed to retain Ginn, and failed to sign a young WR in Nicks. And also has failed to bring in quality offensive line talent. He values Greg Hardy over those moves that could have been made so it has to work for him.

The offseason should be about improvement and there's no doubt that as of right now this offense is worse than it was at this point last year. I heard the main priority this offseason was to surround Cam with talent, has that happened? Regardless of what the calendar says, it's going to be hard to do going forward.

If I'm Cam I'm not too confident right now, especially since it appears he doesn't know what's going on. That's why I believe he should at least be briefed on what the plan is going forward

 

Bringing back smith, ginn and lafell would have likely meant a worse offense though.  Greg Hardy was brought back because Greg Hardy is much more valuable than anyone on the offense not named Cam.  If Jerricho Cotchery and Tiquan Underwood are still atop the depth chart after the first two days of the draft then there will be reason to criticize.

[heel31ok]

NFL General Managers don't.

Players play. Coaches coach. General Managers sign and release. That's the way it is pretty much everywhere in the league...

...and that's exactly the way it should be.

no , not really. Consulting is just asking questions and GM's, just like any good Business man, asks questions. I think you may not understand what consulting means.

[KillerKat]

Saw thread title. Thought Ace Boogie would act like a whiney school girl. Come into thread. Not surprised.

[Mr. Scot]

That's not exactly made, up. Carolina has been the target of many offseason jokes in the media this offseason, not to mention every poll. Even the players have made comments

So you want to cite the media as authority now? The same media you're constantly complaining about when it comes to Newton?

The media aren't football people. People who actually make a living in NFL front offices know how this works.

[KillerKat]

When Cam's contract comes you guys remember this is a business. The same ones screaming it's a business are the same ones that are going to be crying when Cam has to be paid a premium just to stay.

Yea because Cam will be in his mid 30's with diminishing skills and will be getting more than what he's worth. You are the voice of reason.

[panthers55]

A lot of guys in here drinking whatever gettleman is selling while everyone in football is asking what he hell are the carolina panthers doing. Generally there are 2 sides to a argument and if you look yo your left and right and no one is on ur side your probably wrong.

Yeah because everyone was saying we were going to win the division and go 12-4 last year and they were all right!!!!

 

What???

They said last year we were going to be last in the division and only win 6 or 7 games??  You mean the talking heads were completely wrong like they were when they said Rivera sucks and should be canned??

 

Well I am sure they are going to be right this year because they are almost always right??

 

What??

You mean they are often wrong and write things just to cause controversy and make a name for themselves.

 

 

But but but.  It has to be true because they have consensus and we all know that if most people believe it, it must be true.  Stop trying to use the facts here to confuse me.  I have my opinion and all logic does is get in the way..........

[Mr. Scot]

no , not really. Consulting is just asking questions and GM's, just like any good Business man, asks questions. I think you may not understand what consulting means.

I think you have no clue how an NFL front office works.

(your assertion that Steve Smith dictated his own release is pretty solid evidence of that)

[BlackCnqstdr]

no , not really. Consulting is just asking questions and GM's, just like any good Business man, asks questions. I think you may not understand what consulting means.

 

 

Can you provide any examples of GM's asking 4th year QBs which of their teammates should be cut and which should be resigned?  

[Mr. Scot]

This fanbase is full up with "go along, to get along" types. No matter how much some of you are trying to force the "humans are a commodity" angle...that DOES NOT MAKE IT SO! You have to find a medium between business and respecting your performers.

Like the Steelers and Patriots do?

[Silent Majority]

Can you provide any examples of GM's asking 4th year QBs which of their teammates should be cut and which should be resigned?

I have to jump in here. How many 4th year QB's ARE THE TEAM?

[Mr. Scot]

I have to jump in here. How many 4th year QB's ARE THE TEAM?

None...including Newton.

[RoaringRiot]

I have to jump in here. How many 4th year QB's ARE THE TEAM?

 

 

None that I can think of. Did you have one in mind?