Rivera says Cam wasn't consulted in WR moves

[The Huddler]

best answer is bias

[csx]

I never would have assumed for a second that he would be consulted in such a situation. I certainly hope that would never happen.

[RoaringRiot]

big boys don't say "big boy pants".

 

 

They do when they're trying to talk at the same level as most that are forming these arguments. 

[t96]

I'm sure...

Assuming the story is actually true, Luke has only been in the league one year. He'll learn about the business side of the game pretty quick.

In short, you're not in college anymore kid. It's a job now. And the thing about jobs is that sometimes, people get fired.

Did you leave out 2012?

[Mr. Scot]

Did you leave out 2012?

No. 2013.

[CPcavedweller]

Completely right, these guys are in no way deserving of time off. Their millions should keep them happy, why take a vacation?

Scccaaammmm Newton couldn't win a big game to save his life. Succkkkzzzzz

[panthers55]

No, you are wrong. We are all expecting Cam to get an absurd amount of money to stay anyway. After watching his rookie season anyone who thought this guy didn't have a big pay day coming was an idiot.

 

Edit: You honestly think someone of his skill/caliber would take a discount if we told him ahead of time we were releasing Steve...or if we added other marginal WRs

I agree with you that one of the reasons that we are going on the cheap and managing the cap is so we can pay Cam a ridiculous amount of money which he will get no matter what.  Plus the idea that we will have to pay him a ton of money in order to convince him to stay is plain ridiculous.  How many playoff wins has Romo had in his career???  Did that stop him from getting paid a boatload.  Quarterbacks don't take discounts because there are only 32 of them in the league and only about half of them are very good.  He will get paid a ton and he will be here whether he wants to be or not.  I can't remember a quarterback going somewhere else as a free agent when the team wanted him to stay.

[heel31ok]

Many bosses consult with employees.That doesn't mean they do whatever they say . I see both sides of this argument. I am glad this is all on G-man.

[panthers55]

some in this fanbase have been convinced Cam was going to bolt since we drafted him and are looking for every excuse in every offseason to explain why.

 

We went 12-4 last year and won our division.  This offseason isn't even done yet.

 

No reason to panic.

This^^^

 

Plus, when has a quarterback ever bolted when a franchise wanted to keep him?? I can't think of any and doubt anyone else can either.  Because it just doesn't happen.

[AceBoogie]

Cam has earned his contract, you have to pay the piper. I have no problem with it. However, because of who he is as a man and a leader I see him taking a deal like Rodgers or Brady that's structured in a manner to benefit the team. He's not the POS Drew Brees is.

I do believe he's that type of guy, but at the same time this organization(and this isn't on Gettleman, YET)hasn't proven that they are capable of building around him. Now you have a new GM in Gettleman who released Steve Smith, failed to retain Ginn, and failed to sign a young WR in Nicks. And also has failed to bring in quality offensive line talent. He values Greg Hardy over those moves that could have been made so it has to work for him.

The offseason should be about improvement and there's no doubt that as of right now this offense is worse than it was at this point last year. I heard the main priority this offseason was to surround Cam with talent, has that happened? Regardless of what the calendar says, it's going to be hard to do going forward.

If I'm Cam I'm not too confident right now, especially since it appears he doesn't know what's going on. That's why I believe he should at least be briefed on what the plan is going forward

[Jackofalltrades]

A lot of guys in here drinking whatever gettleman is selling while everyone in football is asking what he hell are the carolina panthers doing. Generally there are 2 sides to a argument and if you look yo your left and right and no one is on ur side your probably wrong.

When you don't have an argument...just make stuff up.

[panthers55]

I do believe he's that type of guy, but at the same time this organization(and this isn't on Gettleman, YET)hasn't proven that they are capable of building around him. Now you have a new GM in Gettleman who released Steve Smith, failed to retain Ginn, and failed to sign a young WR in Nicks. And also has failed to bring in quality offensive line talent. He values Greg Hardy over those moves that could have been made so it has to work for him.

The offseason should be about improvement and there's no doubt that as of right now this offense is worse than it was at this point last year. I heard the main priority this offseason was to surround Cam with talent, has that happened? Regardless of what the calendar says, it's going to be hard to do going forward.

If I'm Cam I'm not too confident right now, especially since it appears he doesn't know what's going on. That's why I believe he should at least be briefed on what the plan is going forward

Again we are only 4 weeks into the season.  Last year we had more holes than we do now and we went 12-4 from 7-9.

Gettleman has shown that he can build a winner and do it in less than 1 year.  After this season he will show that we can build a consistent winner as we have a back to back winning season for the first time in our history.

 

Was Cam briefed last year about the plan?  How did that work out?  Like Olsen said last week, they saw what Gettleman did last year so they are taking a wait and see attitude. Why not take a page from their play book and do the same.  Or do you think you need to briefed as well about what we are going to do in the draft and for the rest of free agency??

[Mr. Scot]

Many bosses consult with employees.That doesn't mean they do whatever they say . I see both sides of this argument. I am glad this is all on G-man.

NFL General Managers don't.

Players play. Coaches coach. General Managers sign and release. That's the way it is pretty much everywhere in the league...

...and that's exactly the way it should be.

[AceBoogie]

When you don't have an argument...just make stuff up.

That's not exactly made, up. Carolina has been the target of many offseason jokes in the media this offseason, not to mention every poll. Even the players have made comments