Rivera says Cam wasn't consulted in WR moves

[RoaringRiot]

Sure if we don't sign a replacement receiver, but we have. Let's say Cotchery is that replacement, he's not, that's 2 million this season, two million next season. That's 10 million minus four, if you consider Cotchery a replaceemnt, he's not.

No he's not the answer. He's a rental. I don't think there's anyone who believes he's the answer.

I think the equation would be $10+ $7M - $4M. Smitty was also getting paid this year.

And I'm not even talking about my opinion of that move. I was just mentioning the savings since it was said that there isn't any.

[Mr. Scot]

OMG I typed Dwight instead of Dallas!!!

 

Still doesn't change the point nor the fact how much of a child you have become when people don't agree with you.

 

Sorry.  I was busy watching highlights of Tom Brady throwing to Cliff Branch B)

 

I believe you were about to impress me with your knowledge of football history?

[FoxBalld]

No he's not the answer. He's a rental. I don't think there's anyone who believes he's the answer.

I think the equation would be $10+ $7M - $4M. Smitty was also getting paid this year.

And I'm not even talking about my opinion of that move. I was just mentioning the savings since it was said that there isn't any.

 

Yes Smith is getting paid this year, not to play. So it's more of -2 million this year, assuming Cothery is taking Smith's spot. Then next year 10 - 2 million, leaving an 8 million hit if Smith was here.

[RoaringRiot]

Yes Smith is getting paid this year, not to play. So it's more of -2 million this year, assuming Cothery is taking Smith's spot. Then next year 10 - 2 million, leaving an 8 million hit if Smith was here.

And $8M is a boat-load of cash, soooooo what's the point?

[WOW!!]

Do you have any sense of football history at all?

 

Marino had a couple of friends named Clayton and Duper that you might have heard about (or apparently not) plus some pretty good O-Linemen.

 

Elway had receivers like Rod Smith and Ed McCaffrey, but only won a Super Bowl after he met a fellow named Terrell Davis.

 

There are no one man shows in the NFL.

 

This is Scots attempt at changing this debate from me just saying some players carry a heavy load for their team to me saying 1 player can win a superbowl.

[WOW!!]

Do you have any sense of football history at all?

 

Marino had a couple of friends named Clayton and Duper that you might have heard about (or apparently not) plus some pretty good O-Linemen.

 

Elway had receivers like Rod Smith and Ed McCaffrey, but only won a Super Bowl after he met a fellow named Terrell Davis.

 

There are no one man shows in the NFL.

 

 

Obviously you don't company man.

Duper nor Clayton would be in anybody's top 40 greatest WR'S of all time and neither are in the HOF.

Without Marino those Miami teams wouldn't even have made the playoffs.

And Elway took 3 teams to the Superbowl before Rod and Macaffrey were even in the League. Remember the 3 amigo?? (Ricky Nattiel, Vance Johnson, and Some other guy nobody remembers because Elway was those Broncos teams.

And if Andrew Luck isn't on the Colts do they even make the playoffs??

Yes no team is a 1 person thing but their are examples of1 person carrying a heavy ass load. When it comes to certain teams.

Without Cam this offense doesn't have a running game in the top 10 or able to be 1 of the best 3rd down conversion teams. Cam made the oline, the running game and the WR corp look better then they really were.

Side note: Don't question my knowledge of football history again I will embarrasse you more times then not.

You've been on this really childish stick of calling names of people who don't agree with your opinion. You're way better then that.

 

 

Exactly where did I say 1 person can win a superbowl???

[FoxBalld]

And $8M is a boat-load of cash, soooooo what's the point?

 

In my opinion Smith was worth it. I personally think in the right offense he could be a 1K receiver again. It would have been ideal to restructure or have him to a pay cut in some form. Having said that I don't think we can find Smith's replacement for much less than we were planning to pay him.

[WOW!!]

Scot knows so much about the history of football that he forgot Elway took teams to the Superbowl without Mccaffrey , Smith, and Davis.

 

But I forgot he change the debate to winning the superbowl when that mistake was discovered.

[Mr. Scot]

This is Scots attempt at changing this debate from me just saying some players carry a heavy load for their team to me saying 1 player can win a superbowl.

 

And this was your response...

 

 

Don't question my knowledge of football history again I will embarrasse you more times then not.

 

Comparing Peyton Manning's Colts to Andrew Luck's Colts was a major down fall by you.

Andrew luck doesn't have

 

1. Oline with a HOF center like Jeff Saturday

2. A Rb like Edjrien James

3. Marvin Harrison and a young Reggie Wayne

4. A TE in like Dwight Clark.

 

And that came after you talked about one of the best receiving duos of the last forty years like they were no big deal.

 

Dude, at this point the only person you're able to "embassasse" with your knowledge of football history is yourself.

 

Give it up.  You've lost.  But hey, thanks for the laughs :lol:

 

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna go to YouTube and look up some highlights of Steve Young throwing to Sidney Rice :D

[WOW!!]

Please :lol:

 

I'm sure you and Google have an extensive knowledge of football history. What you don't have, as shown by your responses, is a sense of it.  I have it because I actually watched those guys you're googling play (and I'm not talking about on NFL Films). 

 

For one, talking about the teams Elway took to the Super Bowl (back in the days when playing at Mile High was a bigger advantage than it is these daysm thanks to improvements in conditioning) as an example that proves your point.  Do me a favor and post the scores of those games and tell me how strong your post stands up.  For comparison's sake, make sure you also post the scores of the ones where he had Terrell Davis.

 

And Marino as an example of a one-man show?  The guy who went to one Super Bowl and never went again?  The guy who everyone said would be back once Jimmy Johnson took over the Dolphins but never was because - everyone agreed - Johnson failed to build a good enough team around him.  Nice argument.  Oh and those 'nobodies' Duper and Clayton?  they're revered in Miami, sharing space in the ring of honor with legends like the guys from the 72 team.  Any Dolphin fan that heard you say Duper and Clayton meant little to nothing to Marino's success would likely laugh in your face.

 

But hey, if you wanna go for examples of guys that you think are the whole deal, why go with Luck?  Why not go with the guy everyone says he's modeled after, Peyton Manning?  Why not reference him?  Well, maybe because everybody watched his 'one man show' in last year's Super Bowl.  Specifically, they watched it get beaten by an organization that took a team approach, and in so doing, got it done in dominating fashion (and without consulting Russell Wilson on whom they should sign).

 

Bottom Line: Quarterbacks carry a heavy load on offense because they're the guys that touch the ball on just about every play.  But pretty much every one of them - including Newton, Luck, Manning, etc - will tell you they can't do it without the guys around them. 

 

Maybe you should try taking their word for it if you don't like mine.

 

I'm sorry I gave you more credit then you deserved. I thought you were saying Peyton carried his Colts team with no help.

 

There is no way in Hell i thought you were actually trying to say Luck's Colts and Peyton's Broncos is the same situation??

 

So Luck had players comparable to DT, Decker, JT, Moreno, Ball and  Welker ??? 

 

Also didn't the Broncos make and win a playoff game with The Golden Calf of Bristol the year before Peyton got there and the Colts were the worst team in the league before Luck got there??

 

Why did you even try this lame attempt at a comparison??

[panthers222]

In my opinion Smith was worth it. I personally think in the right offense he could be a 1K receiver again. It would have been ideal to restructure or have him to a pay cut in some form. Having said that I don't think we can find Smith's replacement for much less than we were planning to pay him.

 

Restructuring does nothing to help the team. Just pushes money back. Honestly I was a bit surprised when I looked back at his numbers from last year. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/235157/steve-smith

 

He didn't even break 70yds in any game last year...

[WOW!!]

And this was your response...

 

 

 

 

And that came after you talked about one of the best receiving duos of the last forty years like they were no big deal.

 

Dude, at this point the only person you're able to "embassasse" with your knowledge of football history is yourself.

 

Give it up.  You've lost.  But hey, thanks for the laughs :lol:

 

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna go to YouTube and look up some highlights of Steve Young throwing to Sidney Rice :D

 

Like a child who couldn't make a valid point or understand the point another person is making. They jump on 1 statement and run with it.

 

 

Side Note: All the  :cool:  at the end of your sentences are cute sweetheart.

[Mr. Scot]

Like a child who couldn't make a valid point or understand the point another person is making. They jump on 1 statement and run with it.

 

 

Side Note: All the  :cool:  at the end of your sentences are cute sweetheart.

 

I prefer to keep the humor in my smileys.  Yours is found in your content :D

 

For future reference, if you're going to use Google to try and make people think you're more knowledgeable than you really are, make sure you at least get your facts straight.

 

Step 1: Brag about extensive knowledge

 

Step 2: Get easy to remember facts wrong

 

That's the formula for an epic fail, and you followed it to perfection :lol:

 

By all means, keep trying to come up with something to get your credibility back.  It's too late, mind you, but the attempts are entertaining.

[RoaringRiot]

In my opinion Smith was worth it. I personally think in the right offense he could be a 1K receiver again. It would have been ideal to restructure or have him to a pay cut in some form. Having said that I don't think we can find Smith's replacement for much less than we were planning to pay him.

There are too many threads on their already to get into this. I don't believe you truly understand what restructuring a contract does to the cap if that's your suggestion. Smitty was pretty open about not taking a pay cut.