Gettleman Isn't a People's Person

[The Huddler]

Yeah fug this smart, 12-4 guy.

[FoxBalld]

You have to be kidding me?  The one year deals that he signed last offseason were the only choice he had....and he did a fantastic job at it. 

 

We are a cap strpped team right now....he had to plug and play bargain bin players last year.  And, the moves he made paid off big time.  He is having to do the same this year.

 

We had up to 7 rookies and bargain bin players starting on the defense last season....and those were directly attributed to great decisions by Gett.

 

We should have been a 7-9 team last season....but the moves that were made yielded 12-4 and a division title.

 

Please stick to eating paste....you are way out of your league on here.

 

You have no fuging clue what you're talking about do you? He could have definitely signed Mike Mitchell, Captain, or even Ginn to multi-year deals that would have been cap friendly. Hell, he could have signed Hardy before he went all out in a contract year. He could have not franchised Hardy and resigned all of these playres to multi-year deals this year or at the least offered them a deal.

 

The moves he made didn't move us from 7-9 to 12-4, you're fuging delusional.

[MHS831]

I do not get how people can LOSE for five years and then attack the wheelings and dealings of a cap-strapped GM who comes in and provides about 12 key players with smoke and mirrors who take this team to 12-4.

 

About the way he treated Smitty--are you upset about the way he treated the player or the person?  Gettlemen has not apologized.  Good.  Do not pretend to assume you understand all of the drama that surrounds SS.  He is an aging, bipolar player whose butt has been kissed here for over a decade.  While he has a good side, he has an equally bad side.  Keeping him in 2014 meant keeping him for 2 more years.  $9 million for a 37 year old WR when Smitty and Luke deals were in place.

 

Gettlemen values the future more than the past and perhaps the present.  Hurney's contracts rewarded past performance, which is where he screwed up.  Gettlemen probably wishes that everyone didn't misinterpret his verb tense when he was asked about Smitty, but one reason this thing blew up was due to his honesty. 

[FoxBalld]

I do not get how people can LOSE for five years and then attack the wheelings and dealings of a cap-strapped GM who comes in and provides about 12 key players with smoke and mirrors that takes this team to 12-4.

 

About the way he treated Smitty--are you upset about the way he treated the player or the person?  Gettlemen has not apologized.  Good.  Do not pretend to assume you understand all of the drama that surrounds SS.  He is an aging, bipolar player whose butt has been kissed here for over a decade.  While he has a good side, he has an equally bad side.  Keeping him in 2014 meant keeping him for 2 more years.  $9 million for a 37 year old WR when Smitty and Luke deals were in place.

 

Gettlemen values the future more than the past and perhaps the present.  Hurney's contracts rewarded past performance, which is where he screwed up.  Gettlemen probably wishes that everyone didn't misinterpret his verb tense when he was asked about Smitty, but one reason this thing blew up was due to his honesty. 

 

Cutting Smith was stupid and will prove so this year. Go ahead and screenshot or copy and paste this copy into a notepad.

 

[jarhead]

Cutting Smith was stupid and will prove so this year. Go ahead and screenshot or copy and paste this copy into a notepad.

 

 

I think the key word is "this year"

[FoxBalld]

I think the key word is "this year"

 

And next year? Smith was already strong as fug, and now getting that old man strength and weight. He's going to be one hell of a receiver that goes up and makes plays.

[Jackofalltrades]

And next year? Smith was already strong as fug, and now getting that old man strength and weight. He's going to be one hell of a receiver that goes up and makes plays.

If that is how it really works you would not constantly hear players refer to football as a young man's game.

[MHS831]

You have no fuging clue what you're talking about do you? He could have definitely signed Mike Mitchell, Captain, or even Ginn to multi-year deals that would have been cap friendly. Hell, he could have signed Hardy before he went all out in a contract year. He could have not franchised Hardy and resigned all of these playres to multi-year deals this year or at the least offered them a deal.

 

The moves he made didn't move us from 7-9 to 12-4, you're fuging delusional.

 

 if you think Gettlemen's acquisitions had no impact on the 12-4 last year, the 3 guys you mentioned that he should have re-signed------------ALL WERE GETTLEMEN'S  FREE AGENT ACQUISITIONS IN 2013. 

 

Which begs the question:  If they had no impact on 12-4, why should we have gone after them in free agency in 2014?

[FoxBalld]

 if you think Gettlemen's acquisitions had no impact on the 12-4 last year, the 3 guys you mentioned that he should have re-signed------------ALL WERE GETTLEMEN'S  FREE AGENT ACQUISITIONS IN 2013.

 

Yes they were. From what I'm reading everyone seems to not value those players and think bringing in almost anyone would work in our system, meaning that the players before Dave Gettleman were the players that made us a 12-4 team? 

[FoxBalld]

If that is how it really works you would not constantly hear players refer to football as a young man's game.

 

Yeah, that or you can watch football and see careers of star receivers who have played into their mid thirties. Many adapt and change from burners that draw double coverages to procession receivers who can make plays on the ball. 

[MHS831]

Cutting Smith was stupid and will prove so this year. Go ahead and screenshot or copy and paste this copy into a notepad.

 

When Smitty is 37, do you think we should pay him $9 million?  That is what keeping him will cost us--$23 million over the next few years for a WR in decline while trying to sign a franchise QB and a hall of fame MLB.  Surely your uncanny ability to see the future (even though consequences are not part of that gift) has foretold such a financially dire situation.

 

And there is no reason to be a dick about having your opinion refuted.  It really shows a pig-headed insecurity.  People who are always right never are.

 

[Jackofalltrades]

Yeah, that or you can watch football and see careers of star receivers who have played into their mid thirties. Many adapt and change from burners that draw double coverages to procession receivers who can make plays on the ball.

And Steve is capable of that, but with his contract it didn't make sense to keep him. Also, it's been discussed ,ad nauseum, that the reason for cutting Smith was more about leadership and chemistry.

[FoxBalld]

When Smitty is 37, do you think we should pay him $9 million?  That is what keeping him will cost us--$23 million over the next few years for a WR in decline while trying to sign a franchise QB and a hall of fame MLB.  Surely with your uncanny ability to see the future (even though consequences are not part of that gift) has foretold such a financially dire situation.

 

And there is no reason to be a dick about having your opinion refuted.  It really shows a pig-headed insecurity.  People who are always right never are.

 

 

I think we should either honor his contract or try to get him to take a paycut or restructure. I haven't heard anything about Dave asking Smith to restructure. It's also apparent that Smith was still a productive wide receiver, even at his pay level. He had a 1300 yard season in 2011, and in 2012 he had another 1000 yard year. Shula fuged Smith last year, not to mention he was hurt, and out several games. We should have kept Smith, drafted a new receiver, and found a veteran that could make plays.

 

I'm guessing you don't realize just how bad of a move this was. Apparently most of the players that watch the NFL, the analysts, and most Carolina fans do however, and I'll stick with them. When next year is done and Smith has been a major asset to the Ravens you can come back to this thread if you'd like. We'll probably talk in length about how Smith should have been helping our team make a playoff run instead of how we let our best receiver on our roster go for a mere cap saving of about a million dollars this year.

 

So that's what 9 million next year, minus the money lost this year, minus the obvious production, PR nightmare, loss of revenue of merchandise. I don't know bud, maybe you're the one that's insecure.

[MHS831]

Yes they were. From what I'm reading everyone seems to not value those players and think bringing in almost anyone would work in our system, meaning that the players before Dave Gettleman were the players that made us a 12-4 team? 

 

But you said that Gettlemen's free agent acquisitions did not contribute to the 12-4 record--and now you want to re-sign them.  Which is it?

 

Gettlemen knows talent and he compares the talent level to the cost of the player--that is his job.  Mitchell, Munnerlyn, and GInn were overpaid.  Gettlemen walked away.  These players can be replaced.  They are role players.  You do not chase them in free agency--that is how you stay cap challenged--spending $$$ you do not have to retain average role players.