Ron Rivera: Panthers may not need number 1 WR in 2014

[Cpt slay a ho]

I actually agree.....our best chance at a #1 wr will be a sleeper in the draft, but if we get guys who can get open and catch we will be find as long as the o line is fixed. Not every team will have a top tier cb, and if they do we need guys who can beat teams 2nd CB and slot CB.a good #2 and 3 wr is just as good as a #1wr if used correctly.

 

 

that doesn't mean if we get the chance to get a #1wr to skip out though........

[RoaringRiot]

The Hawks had a decent OL and they had a running game. I think the concern of mine and others is with the exception of our Qb we have neither. Our running game stats are skewed because of our Qb did most of the running and much of it was not a designed play.Rivera is right about needing a" number 1" but that means you have to get production in other places . Right now we have four" number 3" receivers.and OTs void of talent. 

 

I know it is still early but I would like to hear Getts and Rivera acknowledge we have a problem instead of suggesting our running game is acceptable therefore  our need for a number 1 WR is exaggerated .That is either untrue or flawed logic

 

 

I agree....but I think we need to stop looking at our current roster and saying "we can't do this or that". We know the type of team they're looking to build - let's see what they do with the rest of FA and the draft. We know they're not going to publicly show their cards on the moves they're going to make. 

 

Our strong front 7 made the weak secondary look much better than it was.  A strong OL + strong QB + a serviceable RB rotation will do the same for average WRs. 

[MHS831]

No problem, you negative gloomy Gusses.  It is rather simple:  Secretly, the Panthers are working on the "QB throwback pass"  which is essentially a way to add receiving to Cam Newton's offensive weaponry.  Joe Webb?  Part of the plan.  We need a guy who can run reverses and catch "behind the LOS" passes who can throw it back to Cam.  Cam is also working on his loft, perfecting the angle at which he can throw a pass and actually arrive at its destination, thus catching his own pass. 

 

As for the running game, Shula and the brain trust are installing QB traps, the ole QB counter, and the difficult QB Iso, where Cam serves as his own blocker while following himself through A gap.  The "QB double reverse option statue of liberty"  is on the drawing board.

 

Seriously, having a balanced group of WRs might be the best thing for Cam.  I think they are going after particular skill sets to match the situation.  We could see 5 or 6 playing routinely.  Not sure how that would impact the chemistry, especially since Cam may miss OTAs and summer workouts, but we will see.

[fieryprophet]

I think it's more of an emphasis that we weren't getting much production anyways, and it wouldn't be hard to be on par with last year's group. Didn't say we were avoiding a #1 WR though.

[lola]

They let Tate walk and cut Rice. That leaves an UDFA in Baldwin. I honestly can't name another receiver for them.

His comments don't mean we aren't goon to draft a receiver. Comparing their unit vs our unit is an incomplete comparison until the final 53 is announced. That's just like everyone freaking out. What Khaki is saying, and I agree with, is that a strong run game and punishing D is still a philosophy that works in the NFL.

You make great points. While OLine is certainly our top priority (and it's not close) I think most of us are jonesing for that stud #1. With a strong-armed QB like Cam, I want to see what he can do with a major playmaker.

[DOMOMAN]

 You are not going to win the NFL without a semblance of a #1 WR. 

 

So who was a #1 WR on the Seahawks last year? Jermaine Kearse? 

Who was #1WR on the Ravens the year before? Anquan Boldin?

And #1WR on the Giants the year before that? Leading reciever was Hakeem Nicks?

 

In the past 5 years SuperBowls leading recievers (for the winning team) have been:

 

Doug Baldwin, Anquan Boldin, Hakeem Nicks, Jordy Nelson and Marques Colston

 

None of whom i would call top 10 surefire #1 WRs in the NFL

[Proudiddy]

But they let their #1 go (Tate - who is hardly a legitimate #1 by the definition that we're all using) and one of their big play guys (Rice). The point is, and how it relates to this thread, is that Seattle's philosophy is a strong D and strong run game, which makes the need for someone like AJ Green less important. I believe that's all that's being said here by RR. If Cam has time and we can run the ball then that's going to do more for the passing game than just drafting a #1 receiver.

We were talking about hiw Seattle supposedly set the blueprint for winning last season with a "run-first offense." Last season they had Tate, Harvin, Rice, Baldwin, and Kearse. We're not talking about this season, so Tate walking is irrelevant. Now, if you do want to talk about this upcoming season, they still have Harvin and idk who all else left or became a FA outside of Tate and Rice... now, name a dynamic, consistent, reliable option we are csrrying over to next season at this point. There is none, and that's the issue.

Let's look at the Niners, who have been deep in the postseason every year since Harbaugh got there... Run-heavy at times? Yes. Why wouodn't you be? Frank Gore, LaMichael James, Kaepernick. So what if the run game gets shut down? Vernon Davis. Crabtree. Boldin. LOL. Aside from the refs, that's how they came to Charlotte and ended our season.

Look at every other team that made the playoffs last season and compare their receiving corps to ours. It's laughable. Then we release our best WR with no backup plan, and now say we might even need one, we'll just run Georgia Tech's offense this season. LMAO...

I get it's March and some in our fanbase are patient to a fault. But, I don't like what I'm seeing or hearing.

IMO, even if we hit on a WR in the first two rounds, we still didn't upgrade the offense. Cotchery is a #3, Underwood is a #3 or 4. McNutt will not amount to anything and we've never seen King play a meaningful down in the NFL.

We didn't add weapons or become more explosive to this point, in fact, we downgraded, and I'm not optimistic about that changing after the draft if you're depending on a rookie to become your #1 off the bat.

[Proudiddy]

So who was a #1 WR on the Seahawks last year? Jermaine Kearse?

Who was #1WR on the Ravens the year before? Anquan Boldin?

And #1WR on the Giants the year before that? Leading reciever was Hakeem Nicks?

In the past 5 years SuperBowls leading recievers (for the winning team) have been:

Doug Baldwin, Anquan Boldin, Hakeem Nicks, Jordy Nelson and Marques Colston

None of whom i would call top 10 surefire #1 WRs in the NFL

Thank you for making my point. Now, name a WR on our roster as good as any of those guys.

[TbTeRRoR]

Who exactly was Seattle's #1 WR?

He's just letting it be known that their focus is going to be on the OL so that they can run the ball effectively. A strong line = better running game + more time for Cam = more time for receivers to get open = better offensive control + strong D = Super Bowl.

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[jtm]

Is he under the impression the panthers could run the ball lastly year? Take away Cam's frantic scrambles and there is no run game.

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I sure hope he isn't counting on Cam to run for his life again this year. Those rushing stats are misleading...I sure didn't feel like we could run the ball last year.

However, if this changes and we can run this year, I agree with his comment. I still think we draft 2 WRs this year.

[Zod]

Thank you for making my point. Now, name a WR on our roster as good as any of those guys.

 

lol

[Cary Kollins]

We really didn't have a true #1 WR last year either. 

 

 

Hopefully we can find a future #1 throught the draft, like a Keenan Allen type. Btw, who knew that Allen was from Greensboro?

[jarhead]

 

We really didn't have a true #1 WR last year either. 

 

 

Hopefully we can find a future #1 throught the draft, like a Keenan Allen type. Btw, who knew that Allen was from Greensboro?

 

Yep when your TE is your leading receiver not named Graham you do not have a WR 1 on the roster.  

[RoaringRiot]

We were talking about hiw Seattle supposedly set the blueprint for winning last season with a "run-first offense." Last season they had Tate, Harvin, Rice, Baldwin, and Kearse. We're not talking about this season, so Tate walking is irrelevant. Now, if you do want to talk about this upcoming season, they still have Harvin and idk who all else left or became a FA outside of Tate and Rice... now, name a dynamic, consistent, reliable option we are csrrying over to next season at this point. There is none, and that's the issue.

Let's look at the Niners, who have been deep in the postseason every year since Harbaugh got there... Run-heavy at times? Yes. Why wouodn't you be? Frank Gore, LaMichael James, Kaepernick. So what if the run game gets shut down? Vernon Davis. Crabtree. Boldin. LOL. Aside from the refs, that's how they came to Charlotte and ended our season.

Look at every other team that made the playoffs last season and compare their receiving corps to ours. It's laughable. Then we release our best WR with no backup plan, and now say we might even need one, we'll just run Georgia Tech's offense this season. LMAO...

I get it's March and some in our fanbase are patient to a fault. But, I don't like what I'm seeing or hearing.

IMO, even if we hit on a WR in the first two rounds, we still didn't upgrade the offense. Cotchery is a #3, Underwood is a #3 or 4. McNutt will not amount to anything and we've never seen King play a meaningful down in the NFL.

We didn't add weapons or become more explosive to this point, in fact, we downgraded, and I'm not optimistic about that changing after the draft if you're depending on a rookie to become your #1 off the bat.

 

 

This has got all kinds of problems....

 

Seattle was definitely a run-first offense. Look at RW's attempts per game and the number of deep passes he had. If you're talking about their receivers last year: Tate is not a #1, Harvin was hurt constantly, Rice was hurt, Baldwin was a UDFA, Kearse was a UDFA.....where is this #1 you keep referring to? They have done a great job finding receivers to step up and be play makers, but they do not have a legitimate #1 receiver like a Green or Bryant or whoever. This is the model that the Panthers are going after.  Again....a strong OL + strong QB + more than decent running game = open WRs. 

 

I don't want to talk about this season because the rosters are incomplete.  But the fact that they let Tate walk and cut Rice should tell you something about their belief in their "plug and play" WR system. 

 

I agree the 49ers have good receivers....but who is their #1?  Davis? Isn't his production in line with Olsen's? Maybe a little higher? They still win by running the ball and playing great D - not by having a stud WR playmaker.

 

Olsen is our best receiver - not Smitty - and he's still on the team

 

You can call it "patient by fault" I call it waiting to see the final product before assessing how our team is going to be for the upcoming season. I see no reason to freak out until the roster is set (doesn't mean I won't freak out then).  

 

If we improve the line significantly and add a WR, there is no reason why we can't control the TOP like we did this past season. You do realize we only gave up around 13 points a game last year? That means 14 points will win the game for you.