Ron Rivera: Panthers may not need number 1 WR in 2014

[RoaringRiot]

You could read the tea leaves when the offseason started... Gettleman and Rivera think they can buck the trend and ride one of the worst offenses in the NFL (due to philosophy, mostly) to another successful year. WRONG. You are not going to win the NFL without a semblance of a #1 WR.

Who exactly was Seattle's #1 WR?

He's just letting it be known that their focus is going to be on the OL so that they can run the ball effectively. A strong line = better running game + more time for Cam = more time for receivers to get open = better offensive control + strong D = Super Bowl.

[KillerKat]

You could read the tea leaves when the offseason started... Gettleman and Rivera think they can buck the trend and ride one of the worst offenses in the NFL (due to philosophy, mostly) to another successful year. WRONG. You are not going to win the NFL without a semblance of a #1 WR. And you are definitely not going to win as a run team with little ability to threaten the opponent in the pass game.

Smh... I jjst dont understand what it is with our franchise... everytime we get a revolutionary, game changing player, we stubbornly refuse to build ariund that strength and take advantage of their abilities, and in turn, waste their potential and talent when we could be winning championships with it instead...

Idiots.

With Smith, never got a #2 WR. With DWill and Stewart, only had a good oline for 1 year. With Cam, never had a good oline since he was drafted, now no #1 WR also.

We also hold on to inept OC's way longer than we should. Shula should've been fired after the season. I don't understand how the FO can not see how bad our offense was especially near the end because of Shula. Without Cam, we never make the playoffs or even when 6 games. He carried the offense. Shula did poo.

[Blackmagic]

Only a few teams have a real number 1 WR. Contrary to belief, the team didn't have number 1 WR in production last year, just in name. The team has to find receivers who can get open. An offense is more dangerous if Cam spread the ball and can throw to the open receiver (they actually catch the ball) instead of forcing passes. 

[Ship]

Nobody reads or wants to mention the part where our #1 receiver catches another 8 passes on his own... Olsen. 

[RoaringRiot]

Saying we may not need a #1 WR infers that WR isn't a priority.

And the Hawks weren't exactly a run-first offense. They ran a lot, but look at their WR corps and stack it against ours from last year or even what we have to this point this offseason... heck, even add in the rookie WR of your choice. The Hawks have tons of talent at WR. They get it. They gave their talented young QB weapons.

They let Tate walk and cut Rice. That leaves an UDFA in Baldwin. I honestly can't name another receiver for them.

His comments don't mean we aren't goon to draft a receiver. Comparing their unit vs our unit is an incomplete comparison until the final 53 is announced. That's just like everyone freaking out. What Khaki is saying, and I agree with, is that a strong run game and punishing D is still a philosophy that works in the NFL.

[Proudiddy]

Who exactly was Seattle's #1 WR?

He's just letting it be known that their focus is going to be on the OL so that they can run the ball effectively. A strong line = better running game + more time for Cam = more time for receivers to get open = better offensive control + strong D = Super Bowl.

the point is, Wilson had plenty to choose from... last season though, I would say it was likely Golden Tate. But... that isn't fair to say, because who made a huge impact in the Super Bowl, but barely played prior to that? Percy Harvin. Then you have Baldwin, Kearse, and Rice, who was also injured quite a bit.

Regardless, just with Tate, Baldwin, and Kearse, they had guys with big-play ability in the passing game that could beat you over-the-top or break a short pass for a TD. We didn't. And sticking with that as your ideal offensive philosophy is plain stupid. Teams figure out how to take away your strengths each season, that's why you build around them to become balanced and stronger.

We made "enough" plays when we had to and still finished with horrible looking stats and a non-existent offense for almost every game last season. Look what happened in the playoffs... if our defense has a bad day or Cam gets bottled up, we can't recover from that. That's why you improve and build on top of what you already have. I guess having an embarrassing offense and treating your dynamic QB like a game manager whom eeks out games when the clock hits zero is amusing for some, but not for me...

[Proudiddy]

Nah, f it... I'm cool with a career slot reciever past his prime being our #1 too. Sound offensive approach.

[Kakarot]

Seen this coming a mile away. If we lose some games cause were not able to muster up more than 20 points, or the offense goes 3 and out and we lose a game late in the 4th qtr...these same folks championing Rivera and Getts offensive philosophy will be the ones who throw blame on the offense quick. All these ppl talking about be patient with Getts are the same ones who had no patience with Cam early in his career. Oh well...we'll see how this turns out. I'm hoping for the best

[Mr. Scot]

Lemme check my calendar...

Oh yeah. This is a great time of year to take what a team says to the media seriously :unsure:

[jarhead]

They let Tate walk and cut Rice. That leaves an UDFA in Baldwin. I honestly can't name another receiver for them.

His comments don't mean we aren't goon to draft a receiver. Comparing their unit vs our unit is an incomplete comparison until the final 53 is announced. That's just like everyone freaking out. What Khaki is saying, and I agree with, is that a strong run game and punishing D is still a philosophy that works in the NFL.

The Hawks had a decent OL and they had a running game. I think the concern of mine and others is with the exception of our Qb we have neither. Our running game stats are skewed because of our Qb did most of the running and much of it was not a designed play.Rivera is right about needing a" number 1" but that means you have to get production in other places . Right now we have four" number 3" receivers.and OTs void of talent. 

 

I know it is still early but I would like to hear Getts and Rivera acknowledge we have a problem instead of suggesting our running game is acceptable therefore  our need for a number 1 WR is exaggerated .That is either untrue or flawed logic

[davos]

They like the guys on our line and they don't feel they need a number one WR.

 

They're just setting up expectations in case the guy at the top of our board in rounds 1 and 2 happens not to be a WR or OL.    

 

 

[CPcavedweller]

I have said this soooooooo many times throughout these threads yet you all carry on like we need to have Megatron V 2.0. Hands is what we need, for cheap. Not a $6 million a year game breaker.

[jarhead]

Lemme check my calendar...

Oh yeah. This is a great time of year to take what a team says to the media seriously :unsure:

I know that but I was disappointed in how Ron was spinning it on our offense. He has come off in the past more of a staight shooter. Suggesting Byron Bell may be our next LT should put the fear of God in everyone.

 

 

[RoaringRiot]

the point is, Wilson had plenty to choose from... last season though, I would say it was likely Golden Tate. But... that isn't fair to say, because who made a huge impact in the Super Bowl, but barely played prior to that? Percy Harvin. Then you have Baldwin, Kearse, and Rice, who was also injured quite a bit.

Regardless, just with Tate, Baldwin, and Kearse, they had guys with big-play ability in the passing game that could beat you over-the-top or break a short pass for a TD. We didn't. And sticking with that as your ideal offensive philosophy is plain stupid. Teams figure out how to take away your strengths each season, that's why you build around them to become balanced and stronger.

We made "enough" plays when we had to and still finished with horrible looking stats and a non-existent offense for almost every game last season. Look what happened in the playoffs... if our defense has a bad day or Cam gets bottled up, we can't recover from that. That's why you improve and build on top of what you already have. I guess having an embarrassing offense and treating your dynamic QB like a game manager whom eeks out games when the clock hits zero is amusing for some, but not for me...

 

 

But they let their #1 go (Tate - who is hardly a legitimate #1 by the definition that we're all using) and one of their big play guys (Rice). The point is, and how it relates to this thread, is that Seattle's philosophy is a strong D and strong run game, which makes the need for someone like AJ Green less important. I believe that's all that's being said here by RR. If Cam has time and we can run the ball then that's going to do more for the passing game than just drafting a #1 receiver.