Gettleman speaks......finally

[pantherclaw]

Been telling people two things about Cams future extension...and been saying it for a long time.

There is no reason to rush the extension.

The Panthers hold the cards. He's under contract. We can keep him for fifth year with zero negotiating.

After that, we can always franchise him, but I doubt it comes that that.

Whether he signs an extension today, or two yeara from now, he'll most likely be the highest paid QB in the league, or damn close to it.

[pantherclaw]

One of the best CBA changes ever.

now if we can only cap players saleries in relation to how much the salery cap is.....

[Jackofalltrades]

now if we can only cap players saleries in relation to how much the salery cap is.....

While I agree that would create more parity, I don't think it's fair or good for the sport.

[Pimpdaddy]

What would Hurney do...lol.

[jarhead]

 

•  He was noncommittal about the future of free safety Charles Godfrey, who has a $7.1 million cap figure and is coming off Achilles surgery.

“He’s part of the evaluation,” Gettleman said. “He’s got to get healthy first.”

•  Gettleman sounded bullish on fourth-year player Byron Bell’s chances to shift from right to left tackle and fill the void left by Jordan Gross’ retirement.

“Byron is a naturally left-handed kid. He played left tackle his whole college career. He’s taken snaps there in practice and in preseason games,” Gettleman said. “I think the mistake we make is we all have preconceived notions about what a guy can and can’t do. I have seen Byron over there. In my mind, he is not a fish out of water.”

 

When Getts says you are part of the evaluation.....pack your bags

[heel31ok]

There are about 12-15 franchise qbs in the world and the NFL has 32 teams.  There is a DIRECT correlation between franchise QBs and winning in the NFL.

 

You don't let a franchise QB go to avoid bargain hunting. You let a DE go--you let a RB go.

 

As for bargain hunting--If Gettlemen has an eye for bargain hunting, it keeps you out of debt.  I would rather that than overpaying for players.  Mitchell, Florence, Munnerlyn, Edwards, Cole, Ginn, Wharton, Mikell, etc.  That is some very serious bargain hunting. 

 

I have NO problem giving Cam a 6-year, $110 million deal with incentives.  I have no problem keeping Cam if it means losing a DE and finding a rookie in the 2015 draft.

it will be the same every year like last year and this year. You are naive to think ti will only be  a DE. Bargain hunting menas rebuilding every year so you may have your franchise QB but you end up with a new franchise every year. so it is ok with you to overpay one guy so we don't overpay others? Wow that is some real logic you got going there. The excuses about bargain hunting show that it is not the prefered method to building a winning team but you are fine with it? overpay Cam and there is no difference than you not wanting to overpay someone else. In the end someone is overpaid and we stay oin the same situation, stuck in cap quicksand. In a year or two G=man will not longer be able to blame  Hurney.

 It is very hard to field a great D under bargain mode and it was the D that put us near the top even with the Franchise QB.If Cam ends up being the only thing we have then we will not be very good, certainly not good enough to win a CHampionship. So to my original point we cannot pay him 20 mil , which I see you agree with.

[heel31ok]

What do we do? Start over?

 we are starting over.

[MHS831]

it will be the same every year like last year and this year. You are naive to think ti will only be  a DE. Bargain hunting menas rebuilding every year so you may have your franchise QB but you end up with a new franchise every year. so it is ok with you to overpay one guy so we don't overpay others? Wow that is some real logic you got going there. The excuses about bargain hunting show that it is not the prefered method to building a winning team but you are fine with it? overpay Cam and there is no difference than you not wanting to overpay someone else. In the end someone is overpaid and we stay oin the same situation, stuck in cap quicksand. In a year or two G=man will not longer be able to blame  Hurney.

 It is very hard to field a great D under bargain mode and it was the D that put us near the top even with the Franchise QB.If Cam ends up being the only thing we have then we will not be very good, certainly not good enough to win a CHampionship. So to my original point we cannot pay him 20 mil , which I see you agree with.

 

Please don't think that the moves we are making is a long-term plan.  Gettlemen is expertly getting us out of Hurney's crap while preserving the core and making the team competitive.  I am not sure I am being naive when I suggest that you don't have 2 DEs on second contracts to illustrate why you pay a franchise QB fair market value.  Sure it changes from year to year.  I get that. 

 

You are trying to insult me because you fail to see the big picture and understand what is happening.  I don't have time to paint the picture for you.  I suggest that you sit back and watch what happens and save the insults for a time when you are actually making more sense.

 

Here are the faults in your logic:  You seem to accept as a fact that Cam would be overpaid if making $20 million. The market determines what a QB makes and the figure we are throwing around is fair market---lesser QBs are making as much.

 

You seem to suggest that I am arguing that bargain hunting is the preferred method of building a winning team when you are not taking into consideration our current cap situation or what you actually mean by "bargain hunting."  We need a GM who is constantly bargain hunting---pay the core, find value everywhere else.

 

You seem to assume that I agree with your point that we cannot pay Cam $20 million.  I do not know where you get that.  I am saying we cannot afford NOT to pay Cam fair market value.

 

I think you are wrong on every level, but I can say that without insulting you.  You try to support points with unrelated perceptions and wrap them in a package you call logic. 

[TheRumGone]

we are starting over.

Lol we have all our core pieces that's not starting over

[General_Purr]

The sports media will blow Cam up about leaving..

 

Im telling you now

 

Everyone will be yapping about Cam leaving... media can make an impact on players choices so lets hope Cam has ears of stone

[El Chingon]

Gettleman knows what he's going. We're gonna be ok.

[heel31ok]

Please don't think that the moves we are making is a long-term plan.  Gettlemen is expertly getting us out of Hurney's crap while preserving the core and making the team competitive.  I am not sure I am being naive when I suggest that you don't have 2 DEs on second contracts to illustrate why you pay a franchise QB fair market value.  Sure it changes from year to year.  I get that. 

 

You are trying to insult me because you fail to see the big picture and understand what is happening.  I don't have time to paint the picture for you.  I suggest that you sit back and watch what happens and save the insults for a time when you are actually making more sense.

 

Here are the faults in your logic:  You seem to accept as a fact that Cam would be overpaid if making $20 million. The market determines what a QB makes and the figure we are throwing around is fair market---lesser QBs are making as much.

 

You seem to suggest that I am arguing that bargain hunting is the preferred method of building a winning team when you are not taking into consideration our current cap situation or what you actually mean by "bargain hunting."  We need a GM who is constantly bargain hunting---pay the core, find value everywhere else.

 

You seem to assume that I agree with your point that we cannot pay Cam $20 million.  I do not know where you get that.  I am saying we cannot afford NOT to pay Cam fair market value.

 

I think you are wrong on every level, but I can say that without insulting you.  You try to support points with unrelated perceptions and wrap them in a package you call logic. 

overpaid is not according to the market but according what the team has to spend. If we overpay what you say is not the long term plan will become the long term plan. I did not try to insult you I laid out the situation. if that offends you that is on you.

 how much will the cap go up each year? How much will our committment go down with current contracts? how much will we have to sign Cam and Luke? Answer these and show what will be left and if it is workable I will aknowledge but right now I say it isn't and agian this plan you say is not long term will be an annual ordeal for however long the contracts last or the patience of G-man lasts.

[El Chingon]

Sounds like Godfrey is gone.

[heel31ok]

Lol we have all our core pieces that's not starting over

we gutted the WR corp we are waiting to gut the RB corp. The D has a core but even that was in question and will be in question in the future depending on how much money we have to spend on it after we pay Cam and Luke. that is the point. We don't have a complete D and when the "core" is ineffective we can't stop anyone. That is not how you advance in the playoffs.

   so the core as it stands is not good enough to take us to the next level.  We may have a core but not the core that can get us where we need to be. that is undeniably still a work in progress which will be a continual work if we overpay for Cam and then for Luke. That is not hard , it certainly is not rocket surgery.