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This time Rivera talking generally on PFT. Reading the tea leaves: Don't look for much change offensively.

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You would be better off not worrying so much about total yardage and focus more on our efficiency and record.

 

A QB who is for all practical purposes the main rusher skews the numbers, and is somewhat of a red herring.  

 

Just my opinion, but offensive efficiency should not be predicated upon your QB running around for his life, and then having to take off for yards. Sure, your record may be good enough to get you into the playoffs, but it probably won't get you a championship as you'll run into a team that can stop your QB from taking the game over with his legs, as well as the running backs, and force the same QB to beat you from the pocket.  

 

And you had better be prepared for that scenario.

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bleys Newbie

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"If you minus player X from"... is a silly argument. Cam is part of the run game. If you remove any productive player's stats that team will suddenly be near the bottom.

 

we really shouldn't expect our QB to outrun our RBs every season..  that's just bad business.

 

And so I think portraying 100+ yards rushing when 60+% comes from our QB in the form of busted passing plays (or protection) is a valid point when it's being passed off as an intentional run game..

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Regarding the rushing totals.

For a comparison, Russell Wilson had 539 yards rushing last season, Cam Newton had 585.

Though the offenses are similar in some ways, Wilson lead his team in rushing for only one game, and he actually ended up splitting that lead with Marshawn Lynch, as both rushed for 102 yards. Wilson also only accounted for 1 rushing touchdown all season. Compare that with Cam Newton who lead his team in rushing a total of 6 games, and accounted for 6 touchdowns on the ground for the season.

We've got to get our quarterback some help. Cam is a beast, but he can't keep putting the entire offense on his back, nor should he have to. Enough is enough.

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A run heavy offense compliments our dominant defense. A pass happy offense will wear them out, whether it's because we're scoring quickly or having a bad day.

Seattle's offense was just as conservative, if not more, than ours. They played the most prolific offense & QB in NFL history in the Super Bowl. And they beat the ever living dog poo out of them.

Leave the pass happy poo for fantasy football. Beef up that o-line & watch D-Will, Stewart, Tolbert, & Newton run a train thru everybody.

 

I don't understand this kind of thinking at all. We are trying to improve all aspects of our team. You don't think Seattle is trying to improve too? They traded for Harvin last year. Having a better offense with better WRs is not something we should be shying away from. Having better production from the WRs does not mean it will limit our defense.

 

I know this is not college but FSU and Alabama won National Championships by building the best possible teams. period. They tried not to have a weakness anywhere on the field. This is the best way to build a team.

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updownsigma Rookie

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I hope we don't end up losing Cam by trying to force a Ferrari to play the role of the family station wagon. I know his deal isn't up and that we can franchise him, but ultimately I don't think you keep a QB as talented as him happy in a conservative ball control offense.

Exactly. I have no problem with us being a run first team, but when we do pass...it shouldn't be dink and dunk and heavy use of screens etc (not that screens don't have their place). Get Alex Smith to do that. We have the most physically gifted QB in the NFL...we should take advantage of it.

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In all honesty, I hope we never become a team that has to throw 30-50 times on a regular basis.

If you're throwing that much to win games, that means you're having to over come weaknesses from other units of the team.

I underr wanting and needing to throw when ya have to, but why throw all the time when ya don't have to.

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We had 2026 rushing yards this season.  We had essentially four players sharing the load if you include Cam Newton.  Cam had 585 of them.  That means the rest of the team had more than twice the number of running yardage as our QB.  That falls pretty far short of our QB doing all the running

 

If you have four players sharing the load and only one of those players is on the field for every snap, that one guy will likely have a large amount of that total yardage.  If you try to subtract the one guy who is a part of the running game and was very productive, of course suddenly your team will rank near the bottom.

 

The only way to have that not happen is to either completely eliminate Cam from running the ball, or run the ball 40-50 times a game so all 4 players gets 10+ carries a game.

 

First downs and TDs all count the same no matter how you got there.  And when you look at our offensive efficiency we had a pretty damn good year.  Still room to improve, but if you score on a high % of your possessions and don't turn the ball over very often like we did, you defense benefits and you will usually have a pretty good W/L record.

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I hate when it is referenced we rushes for 100+ yards in 15 games.

That makes it sound like we rush the ball well. It was just Cam largely making something weak look good on a stat sheet

Yards are yards ...it does not matter if the RB it the QB got them. They all count the same.

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