#1 Receivers don't grow on trees, I'm told

[The Huddler]

Perhaps I over shot with the HOF WR comment.

Let's change that to a true #1

[Carl Spackler]

Apparently coaches do though, since there is such a thing as a coaching tree.

[Jackofalltrades]

I looked at past career numbers, and using a reasonable increase or reasonable expectation for ball distribution, I think Cam has 3K passing yards easily with Olsen (850), Cotchery (700), The Hair (500), and ~300 each from Tolbert, Stewart and Williams.

So if we can draft a guy that can get another 700 or so as a rookie, and get even moderate production from a 2nd TE, then I think Cam eclipses the 4K mark again for the first time since he was a rookie. As far as I'm concerned that is a recipe for success. If we have our offense from Cam's rookie year with this defense, we win Superbowls.

I agree, but as long as we're winning the yardage totals don't matter to me. It's also apparent that our change in offensive philosophy may be the biggest hindrance to Cam achieving the sexy numbers.

[ed bell]

fail.

yeah, I know...

[Hammerin'Cameron34]

I see lots of talk about this mythical "#1 WR".  What exactly is that?  How many elite #1 WRs are there in the NFL?  5?  10?  At this point, I'd be happy with simply fielding a good NFL WR corps.  We haven't provided Cam Newton with one of those since we drafted him.  If that includes a true elite #1 WR, great. 

 

'11 is the best corps he had and it got worse due to Smith aging. '11 was good because of Shockey and 1,400 yard Smith and he passed for 4,000 

 

I believe he can pass for 4000+ and hit 35 TD in the air, another 5 or 6 on the ground with that 500+ yard rushing just needs a good offense around him.

[Jangler]

When a daddy WR and a mommy WR love each other very much...

 

[ed bell]

Wonder if we see a push to get another 2TE combo going to help out with this?

As far as my blovulating OP, I was just tired of thinking about what In the world Kenny Britt was planning on eating for lunch, or who DeSean was going to take a selfie with.

[top dawg]

I always think of a WR1 as a guy that produces numbers---preferably more 100 yard games than not---notwithstanding receiving most of the attention from the opposition's backfield. 

 

That being said, I think that an offense can produce without a true WR1, just by having legitimate threats (guys who can put up those 100 yard type games on any given Sunday) at all of the receiver spots---including at TE.  This is how the Saints and Packers have stayed offensively prolific for years, Denver has been on top offensively for the last couple of years, and the Eagles and Chargers got into the offensively elite mix last year.  And don't be surprised if the Colts don't join the fray this year.  

 

Of course you have to have a good QB (which we do), and a competent OC to make it all work...

[TheRumGone]

I looked at past career numbers, and using a reasonable increase or reasonable expectation for ball distribution, I think Cam has 3K passing yards easily with Olsen (850), Cotchery (700), The Hair (500), and ~300 each from Tolbert, Stewart and Williams.

So if we can draft a guy that can get another 700 or so as a rookie, and get even moderate production from a 2nd TE, then I think Cam eclipses the 4K mark again for the first time since he was a rookie. As far as I'm concerned that is a recipe for success. If we have our offense from Cam's rookie year with this defense, we win Superbowls.

I don't think it is that simple. We had a lot of turnovers that year, turnovers put stress on the defense. Has there ever been a time when there was a high powered offense and a high powered defense?

The key is making the most of our possessions, controlling the clock, as well as being able to score at will. Last year we were amazing at controlling the clock but had a hard time scoring at will until the very end when Cam took over games.

It's a ying and yang type of deal for me. We don't need a true #1 even though that would be amazing, we need guys who can move the chains and at least one guy who is a threat to go deep to take the top off. That is a recipe for success for this team right now.

[mcdougal]

I see lots of talk about this mythical "#1 WR".  What exactly is that?  How many elite #1 WRs are there in the NFL?  5?  10?  At this point, I'd be happy with simply fielding a good NFL WR corps.  We haven't provided Cam Newton with one of those since we drafted him.  If that includes a true elite #1 WR, great. 

 

If you throw out the bold word, IMO, there are 21 #1 pass catchers in the NFL if we include TE (Saints). Some would include the Eagles, but I don't think that Jackson is really a number one. Although the Eagles have collectively a solid to great WR/TE core.

 

Some teams have two #1 (Bears, Chargers, 49ers).

 

Teams that do not have a #1: Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Green Bay (good TE/WR core), Tennessee, Carolina, Buffalo (okay TE/WR core), NYJ, Oakland, and St. Louis, Philly (good TE/WR core).

 

 

The problem with the word elite is that by definition you can only have 1-10 "elites" otherwise the word loses its meaning. 

[mcdougal]

Edit: Atlanta also has 2 #1s.

[TheRumGone]

Is Torrey smith not considered a true #1 in Baltimore? I thought he was.

[Herbert The Love Bug]

I'm not going to worry about it. I trust Gettleman and our staff to assemble the best team possible. I'm not going think about it or worry about it. Just see what happens

[jptaylor84]

In my opinion you don't need a legit #1 the more options the better offensive plan you have to game against! Broncos for example whether it was manning at qb or not thy had d thomas, decker, welker, j thomas and throw in tamme, I think cam looks a much better qb spreading the ball like he did his first year to smitty, naane, olsen, shockey etc, and similar to what he did last year using all the guys we had.

I think you just need a variation of skillsets receivers like two tall guys who will go up for the ball, a speedy guy to blow the top off the defences an a guy who will catch the ball in traffic across the middle, nobody needs to be a #1