David Newton is as definitive as we've seen: D-Jax NOT happening!

[Jangler]

^^^ lol get over it or slice your wrists, but just stop already.

[TheMaulClaw]

Ted Ginn at 3 million or D jax at 11 million and wanting more...

Is D jax a guy who impacts a gm by 7-8+ million more than say even a Ted Ginn?

Yes he is a playmaker but he is a guy that does not dominate the game except for special teams... Which is getting more diminished each season with rule changes.

If D jax was at 4-5 million he is worth it but not for slightly less than Megatron cash.

 

The idea of Jackson in a Panthers uniform is exciting.  The idea of his contract in the Panthers books is not exciting.  If we had a couple of graceful restructures and we could put Jackson a 1 year deal after he's released I would say do it.  Jackson's salary if signing a new contract will be smaller then his current one anywhere he goes.   I do think he would help us have a legitimate Superbowl shot.  

 

I'd only do it on a one year deal though so it really doesn't effect us with Cam's contract.

[MadHatter]

The idea of Jackson in a Panthers uniform is exciting.  The idea of his contract in the Panthers books is not exciting.  If we had a couple of graceful restructures and we could put Jackson a 1 year deal after he's released I would say do it.  Jackson's salary if signing a new contract will be smaller then his current one anywhere he goes.   I do think he would help us have a legitimate Superbowl shot.  

 

I'd only do it on a one year deal though so it really doesn't effect us with Cam's contract.

With the unbelievable talent and depth at WR in this draft, why would you want to tie up $11M in a WR that that is not Megatron.

 

Fact is....most teams wouldn't...which is why you don't see teams beating down Philly's door to get a deal done.

[gorillamilitia13]

With his talents and what he brings to the table who cares if he's a little bit of a hot head? With a player as good as Desean Jackson comes around you have to be ok with putting up with stuff like that, like Smitty in his prime and as far as I know Desean's been out of legal trouble just gets a little heated sometimes. 

[Mr. Scot]

With the unbelievable talent and depth at WR in this draft, why would you want to tie up $11M in a WR that that is not Megatron.

Fact is....most teams wouldn't...which is why you don't see teams beating down Philly's door to get a deal done.

Worth remembering Gettleman was in the Giants FO for Jackson's entire career in Philly (minus last year).

I'd say that puts him in a pretty good position to evaluate what he's worth.

[TheMaulClaw]

With the unbelievable talent and depth at WR in this draft, why would you want to tie up $11M in a WR that that is not Megatron.

 

Fact is....most teams wouldn't...which is why you don't see teams beating down Philly's door to get a deal done.

I'll tell you why:

 

1) His presence would instantaneously make our offense very dangerous.  Our playaction could be seriously deadly which would also open up the run game and help out the oline.  

 

2)  On a one year deal we don't cripple ourselves in the future, and by signing him after the release we don't have to worry about forking over a draft pick.  There would be no conflict in resigning Cam, Luke, and Star in the future.

 

3)  Cam and Desean already have a great rapport with each other.  Providing Cam with a weapon he wants ultimately bodes well for Cam wanting to stay a Carolina Panther.

 

4)  By signing him after his release we won't have to pay him 10.5 mill a year, which is why there are no trade offers.  Jackson if released is looking at about a 1yr/7-8 million dollar contract with his next team.  So he'll be an expensive rental but not a 10.5 mill a year rental.   

 

5)  By signing DJAX to one year deal it becomes essentially a contract year for him.  He'll come in highly motivated to produce to try to earn a second big long term contract. 

 

6) The worst thing that can happen is that next year we're sitting here crying over letting Jackson sign somewhere else.

[Jackofalltrades]

With his talents and what he brings to the table who cares if he's a little bit of a hot head? With a player as good as Desean Jackson comes around you have to be ok with putting up with stuff like that, like Smitty in his prime and as far as I know Desean's been out of legal trouble just gets a little heated sometimes.

That's not the point. The point is his cap number and the act that he feels he's chronically underpaid and continually asking for more money.

Add that to the me first attitude and he's not worth it to the FO. As intriguing as it would be to have his talent on the field the risk vs reward doesn't weigh in our favor. I'm fine with it.

[top dawg]

I like how people are so quick to judge someone they don't even know because of what they "read". Especially since we've learned from Cam that the media will make you out to be somewhere you're not.

I challenge anyone here to find a credible source that states Desean Jackson is wanting more money. I believe he was asked if he was worth more? What would you say if someone came to you and asked you if you were getting paid what you're worth at your job?

And don't give me that he's making millions he needs to shut up arguement. While some people would kill to wake up to a million dollars in their bank account, others would kill themselves if they woke up and that's all they had.

 

Here's an article on Jackson from 2012. IMO he's the same guy he was then. Too much baggage for my taste.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8047116/nfl-no-more-excuses-desean-jackson

 

 

And if that doesn't do it for you, AceBoogie, then here is this year's version.   

 

Now, granted, he did try and backpedal the next day, but the damage was already done.  

 

My thing is if you really take him at his word when he was answering the question, he felt he deserved more money and was campaigning to get it, albeit on the sly. He certainly left the notion up in the air, and that was perceived as a problem waiting to happen (as well it should have considering his history).  Even when he backed down a bit, he still intimated that his stats speak to him deserving a bigger contract.  He feels he's "right there at the top" in reference to his production, but never mind the fact that he is "right there at the top" in salary already. 

 

Sorry, man, D-Jax doesn't get a pass.  If he is cut and some team wants to overpay for his services and attitude, then great. But it's not a "receiver's market" anymore---at least for him---and that's why his agents (and I use the term generically) are trying to create last year's market---2011's or 2012's---this year.  All this, notwithstanding that D-Jax is already getting handsomely paid.

 

 

 

[Mr. Scot]

While I'll grant that his attitude could cause some issues, that's never really been my biggest question about Jackson.

What concerns me more is that he's 5'10, 175.

I know some would invoke Steve Smith, but Jackson isn't built like Smitty. He's missed some games over the past few years with injuries. And as he gets older and takes more punishment, I could see that flight frame becoming an even larger concern.

(especially with teams going in the direction of bigger, stronger corners)

[Montsta]

Nobody wants to trade for DJ, but if he is cut there will be a line of agents calling his reps. That's because no one wants him with his contract, but if he gets cut an the Eagles are paying his guaranteed salary then the teams going after him might get him at a cheaper rate for a couple years before moving on.

He reminds me of a WR version of Revis. Very good player, but his me first attitude is gonna be what makes him play for 6 different teams over a 10-12 year career.

[Montsta]

While I'll grant that his attitude could cause some issues, that's never really been my biggest question about Jackson.

What concerns me more is that he's 5'10, 175.

I know some would invoke Steve Smith, but Jackson isn't built like Smitty. He's missed some games over the past few years with injuries. And as he gets older and takes more punishment, I could see that flight frame becoming an even larger concern.

(especially with teams going in the direction of bigger, stronger corners)

Their hight is basically where comparisons stop. Steve Smith seemed to always relish getting the ball and getting hit or delivering a hit.

Desean Jackson is basically the complete antithesis of that.

[MadHatter]

I'll tell you why:

 

1) His presence would instantaneously make our offense very dangerous.  Our playaction could be seriously deadly which would also open up the run game and help out the oline.  

 

2)  On a one year deal we don't cripple ourselves in the future, and by signing him after the release we don't have to worry about forking over a draft pick.  There would be no conflict in resigning Cam, Luke, and Star in the future.

 

3)  Cam and Desean already have a great rapport with each other.  Providing Cam with a weapon he wants ultimately bodes well for Cam wanting to stay a Carolina Panther.

 

4)  By signing him after his release we won't have to pay him 10.5 mill a year, which is why there are no trade offers.  Jackson if released is looking at about a 1yr/7-8 million dollar contract with his next team.  So he'll be an expensive rental but not a 10.5 mill a year rental.   

 

5)  By signing DJAX to one year deal it becomes essentially a contract year for him.  He'll come in highly motivated to produce to try to earn a second big long term contract. 

 

6) The worst thing that can happen is that next year we're sitting here crying over letting Jackson sign somewhere else.

 

Now I will tell you why I think you are wrong:

 

Even though his skillset and speed would be a great addition (no one is disputing that), the is not worth the drama nor the price that he believes he is worth.

 

You will NOT get him on a one year deal.  The guy has started bitching about wanting more money every time he signed a new deal.  He is going to want a long term deal and someone is likely to give it to him.  If you think he will sign a one year deal, there is no use even discussing this with you....because you are officially dillusional.

 

With the speed and depth in this draft (along with our horrible cap position....next year is even worse than this year)....tying that much up in WR is STUPID. 

 

If we have $7M hanging around, I would much rather sign a LT and roll the dice in the first round for WR.

[TANTRIC-NINJA]

I think guys saw his stats in CHIP KELLY's offense and think he would duplicate that with AIR Shula...not likley.

Also he is a terrible run blocker so...

[TheMaulClaw]

Now I will tell you why I think you are wrong:

 

Even though his skillset and speed would be a great addition (no one is disputing that), the is not worth the drama nor the price that he believes he is worth.

 

You will NOT get him on a one year deal.  The guy has started bitching about wanting more money every time he signed a new deal.  He is going to want a long term deal and someone is likely to give it to him.  If you think he will sign a one year deal, there is no use even discussing this with you....because you are officially dillusional.

 

With the speed and depth in this draft (along with our horrible cap position....next year is even worse than this year)....tying that much up in WR is STUPID. 

 

If we have $7M hanging around, I would much rather sign a LT and roll the dice in the first round for WR.

If there was a starting LT still on the market that's worth the commitment I'd agree with you.  

 

 

Either way there's a couple of different ways we could go about this off season. This is all just wishful thinking though...I would be shocked if we got Jackson.