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DRAFT POLL [UPDATE: JORDAN MATTHEWS ADDED change vote if neccessary]


MichaelNewtonII

who would you take  

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  1. 1. If every single one of these players is available at 28, who would you select?

    • Brandin Cooks
      78
    • Morgan Moses
      16
    • Kelvin Benjamin
      65
    • Jason Verrett
      5
    • Calvin Pryor
      12
    • Cyrus Koudanjio
      11
    • Jordan Matthews
      12


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what makes you say that might i ask?

 

 

FreeFua posted what Gettleman said about rookie receivers. Benjamin hits all the points AGAINST drafting him especially in the 1st round. Let's see- Benjamin can maybe run three routes at this point in his career, incredibly raw and a project, and will definitely have a big adjustment to the NFL. 

 

 

I will bet anyone right now that we won't take Benjamin in the first, it is not a Gettleman type pick. 

 

 

 

Q. What’s your philosophy on potential No. 1 receivers? They can be found in the draft or free agency, so what do you tend to lean toward?

A. The draft history will tell you that it’s a tough position to make an immediate impact. In general, the 20-hour rule has really affected the player that we get. Back in the day, and I know you young guys are tired of hearing that, but when there basically were no rules, these kids for the most part came fundamentally sound. And that’s not happening now.

There was a wide receiver that got taken in the first round a few years back, he ran three routes in college. And didn’t adjust to coverage. He ran to three spots. So just think about what you have to teach that guy. So that’s kind of the thing that, depending upon where he went, he was in the spread offense. Another receiver who was taken in the first round that year, a different college, spread offense, he ran the whole route tree. It depends upon what program the kid came out of.

I don’t know if wide receiver has had a tougher time, but history will tell you the adjustment isn’t easy.

Because the way the league is, the quicker you get your young kids to play, the better you’re going to be. So we’ve got to figure out how quickly this guy’s going to be able to play. 
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    • Carter, Graham, and Hunter for me. Other than that I'm listening to offers. Hell, I'm listening to offers anyway. I'm not doing the Gettleman thing of submitting the pick immediately. If the phones are ringing there's no cost to listening. Maybe someone has an offer so good that I can't refuse.
    • These numbers do not measure a player's prime. Do these numbers include OL pulled up from the practice squad for a game or two then cut?  Do they include players who might have been injured or cut for reasons other than they were past their primes?  The average career for an NFL lineman is 3.63 years, and that is because there is a lot of turnover--regardless of a player's prime. In fact, if only 55% of Offensive linemen drafted in the first round succeed, then the failure rates of most offensive linemen drafted and undrafted would be much lower, cause them to skew the average age of the OL.  This suggests that most players' retirement from the NFL is not based on their prime, but other factors.  They are cut, released, injured--and that is based on their level of play compared to others, not their levels of play within their personal skill range--something that peaks during your prime. In this case, I was talking about Moton, an elite offensive tackle, one that avoided the factors that shorten careers unrelated to their primes. I identify Moton as the team's best offensive lineman on an impressive OL--that distinguishes the type of player being referenced, so I did not provide a lot of qualifiers--as you didn't with your stats.   In this article below, one that evaluates established Offensive tackles, it states the following, which supports my comment:  "Most elite offensive tackles start to decline at roughly the age of 32 if they haven’t already."  So to say that Moton was at the end of his prime was not a reach or careless speculation.  If a player has the skill to be competitive and they can avoid injuries, their career expectancy is much higher than an average of all offensive lineman on a fluid roster. https://www.milehighreport.com/2017/2/27/14724674/age-wall-for-offensive-tackles-nfl  
    • If there’s not much difference in moving back a couple spots, finding a good offer might be an issue.
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