Now the FA WRs have leverage...Bump that!

[Carl Spackler]

All the money Gettleman has spent on taking players to dinner could've been spent on upgrading the stadium without asking the city for so much cash. Probably could pay for a new TV board just with all the trips he's given guys to tell them what other team to join.

[52Beast]

It's a thought. But no need to go back to the pre-Getty period. So far he has a good track record in the draft. No need to try and tie him to the luckiness of drafting a third round return man that turned into a legend (who he ironically axed).

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The point was that we've NEVER acquired a #1 WR via free agency...EVER.  Moose and Smitty were both draft picks and neither was a first rounder.  That's where we'll continue to search for our golden goose. 

 

 

[NFLFangirl19]

And then Godfrey would cost nearly 3mil in dead money next year. You have to keep in mind that our cap is going to be even worse next year (so restructuring anyone is going to typically be a bad move for instant gratification) and that Nicks contract will be up while dealing with the same exact situation. Also, we still need a LT and plenty of other holes to fill.

so we have 6mil with Smitty. Nicks signs costing the team roughly 5mil. We would have 1mil left over. We cut Godfrey as June 1st, we now have 7mil this year and a cap hit of about 3.5 of dead money next year. We will need 4-5mil to sign rookies this year. We are left with holes at LT and CB with roughly 2mil left over.

And I see very few mentioning one big issue with Smitty. He's 35 and recovering from a PCL tear. That's something you don't just brush your shoulders off..

So since we are gambling on the future, I have to say common sense tells me Nicks and Smitty isn't exactly the ideal situation. Especially when Smitty and Nicks have to prove they can play 16 full games...

if you don't think having Nicks, Smith, Olsen, along w/ young drafted reciever, would have set us up w/ one if the best offensive receiving cores atleast in the division then you're crazy! Smith would've been playing the slot not having to do as much. Nicks would've probably been our #1 & Olsen would be doing what he does, then the drafted reciever would have been able to get behind 3 veterans & learn the ropes for the future. Sounds more than ideal to me! I don't get into all that about dead $$ over the next such & such amount of yrs cause that stuff is too deep for me. All I know is that the ppl on ESPN said cutting Smitty NEXT season would give the only real financial benefit. Not this season. But whatever u say. I guess they'll find a way to make the playoffs w/ Godfrey since he's more important. Him & Jerrico Cotchery, whoever that is. You & them both agree that would be a better situation so hey, have at it & you really don't even have a choice now

[top dawg]

yeah, absolutely nobody ever said anything even resembling such a statement..  that would be ridiculous.  so did you say this to make yourself feel better?  lol  

 

And yes, we know Smitty is a warrior.  

 

torn pcl = completely torn, needs surgery

sprained = a tear but not completely torn, recommended to heal on it's own instead of surgery

 

none-the-less, it impacted him severely..  He wasn't even targeted in the 2nd half but once...  surely that's an issue of concern moving forward.

 

Hopefully at 35 he can recover to give me another season (in any jersey) to watch the GOAT put on a few more good performances on a team that actually has the components in place to benefit him.   That team is not the Carolina Panthers tho...

 

Well to keep harping on an injury that Smitty will be well past when the season begins is not necessarily ridiculous, but it is silly in my opinion.  If you think that he's too old to have made an impact in our offense, just say so. If you think G-man was right to cut him, just admit it. You wouldn't be the first. Like I said, there are probably at least thousands in the NFL who believe to the contrary.

[top dawg]

The point was that we've NEVER acquired a #1 WR via free agency...EVER.  Moose and Smitty were both draft picks and neither was a first rounder.  That's where we'll continue to search for our golden goose. 

 

OK, my bad. We agree then.  It's hard to luck yourself into true WR1 in free agency. The Chargers got one the year before with Danario Alexander before he got hurt,,,but, of course he got hurt.

 

At this point I surely am not looking to get anything in FA, but a stop-gap here and there.  I said in another thread that Britt could ultimately end up being the best thing in FA if he were to stay healthy and keep his head in the game, but those may be two big "ifs".  Our best bet is the draft.

[bleys]

 

if you don't think having Nicks, Smith, Olsen, along w/ young drafted reciever, would have set us up w/ one if the best offensive receiving cores atleast in the division then you're crazy! Smith would've been playing the slot not having to do as much. Nicks would've probably been our #1 & Olsen would be doing what he does, then the drafted reciever would have been able to get behind 3 veterans & learn the ropes for the future. Sounds more than ideal to me! I don't get into all that about dead $$ over the next such & such amount of yrs cause that stuff is too deep for me. All I know is that the ppl on ESPN said cutting Smitty NEXT season would give the only real financial benefit. Not this season. But whatever u say. I guess they'll find a way to make the playoffs w/ Godfrey since he's more important. Him & Jerrico Cotchery, whoever that is. You & them both agree that would be a better situation so hey, have at it & you really don't even have a choice now

 

well, in a perfect world where dead cap money doesn't matter because it's too deep of an issue to actually exist in the real world then why stop at signing Nicks?  Let's drive up to Detroit and steal Megatron from the Lions..

 

And why do we need to cut Godfrey?  There's no need for such rash decision making when we'll just trade him for Jimmy Graham...  No biggie.

 

Which reminds me, after careful consideration I've come to the conclusion we don't need to keep 35 year old Smitty on the team.  We'll just travel back in time and grab the 2005 version so the 2014 version watch from the press box.   

 

 

 

But most importantly, when in a discussion with someone, it is always best to tell them what they are saying...  Putting words in peoples mouth is a most effective tactic used by the world's greatest minds..  I mean, duh...

[bleys]

Well to keep harping on an injury that Smitty will be well past when the season begins is not necessarily ridiculous, but it is silly in my opinion.  If you think that he's too old to have made an impact in our offense, just say so. If you think G-man was right to cut him, just admit it. You wouldn't be the first. Like I said, there are probably at least thousands in the NFL who believe to the contrary.

 

I've never said he was too old to make an "impact", however, he is getting to the age where you start seeing setbacks on the healing process as well as reoccurring injuries..  

 

It's silly to think Smitty will stay ageless and perform like a #1.  I will say I'm not as confident he can pull double coverage to make the impact the Panthers would need.  The Panthers didn't have those pieces around him anyhow so it's a moot point about putting him in the slot.   I think he'll have an easier go at it with the Ravens, for sure.  

[NFLFangirl19]

well, in a perfect world where dead cap money doesn't matter because it's too deep of an issue to actually exist in the real world then why stop at signing Nicks? Let's drive up to Detroit and steal Megatron from the Lions..

And why do we need to cut Godfrey? There's no need for such rash decision making when we'll just trade him for Jimmy Graham... No biggie.

Which reminds me, after careful consideration I've come to the conclusion we don't need to keep 35 year old Smitty on the team. We'll just travel back in time and grab the 2005 version so the 2014 version watch from the press box.

But most importantly, when in a discussion with someone, it is always best to tell them what they are saying... Putting words in peoples mouth is a most effective tactic used by the world's greatest minds.. I mean, duh...

i don't know if you're trying to be funny or what by coming up w/ all those dramatic scenarios as if my scenario was far fetched but if so...fail! Literally the only part that would have been in question is the prt about Nicks but even that more than likely would've happened it we kept Smith

I'm not sure why it is that so many panther fans seem to think Smith is so washed up when the Pats, Chargers, Ravens, & about 4 other teams were all lined up hoping to make him apart of their team immediately after he hit the market. he's clearly still impressing someone.

Meanwhile the Panthers will be left w/ the scraps. Hopefully if he's dumb enough to sign here Jerrico Crotchery or whatever his name is will be for them what they claim Smith wasnt. Even though hes 31 & from the looks of his stats he will be about as much of a #1 reciever for them as Lafell was.

& if you don't understand why it would make sense to cut Godfrey by now, then you might just be dumb & It would be a waste of my time to try & explain it again

[SmootsDaddy89]

lol Britt has no leverage.

[bleys]

i don't know if you're trying to be funny or what by coming up w/ all those dramatic scenarios as if my scenario was far fetched but if so...fail! Literally the only part that would have been in question is the prt about Nicks but even that more than likely would've happened it we kept Smith

I'm not sure why it is that so many panther fans seem to think Smith is so washed up when the Pats, Chargers, Ravens, & about 4 other teams were all lined up hoping to make him apart of their team immediately after he hit the market. he's clearly still impressing someone.

Meanwhile the Panthers will be left w/ the scraps. Hopefully if he's dumb enough to sign here Jerrico Crotchery or whatever his name is will be for them what they claim Smith wasnt. Even though hes 31 & from the looks of his stats he will be about as much of a #1 reciever for them as Lafell was.

& if you don't understand why it would make sense to cut Godfrey by now, then you might just be dumb & It would be a waste of my time to try & explain it again

 

I thought for sure that last post would help you out..  

 

Here's why..  Not only is the salary cap fuged next year already without any further damage, but you're telling me it's smart to both gain nothing after 1 year (Nicks), handicap ourselves with the remaining cap space this year, and also pile on the damage of about 3 more million next year with Godfrey's dead money.

 

So either we are talking the reality of this situation or we continue pretending like the salary cap is non-existent.. 

 

 

Now the only thing dumb here is continuing to put words in my mouth..  Take a deep breath and just go back for a sec to read what I've been saying.  

 

 

Then, if you feel like you have a point you'd like to make, try again. 

[stirs]

30 dreg receivers out their and we have 2 spots open, we have the leverage

[top dawg]

I will give Britt the benefit of the doubt as a fringe B-lister because of his upside. I may say the same for Santonio Holmes and Miles Austin, but all three of these guys are poster children for being in street clothes on the sideline. They could turn out to be good pick-ups, but they are certainly not must-haves. Everyone else is JAG.  Guys with bad knees, bad hammy's, and mediocre careers don't have leverage.

 

There are receivers that could probably had until the third, if not fourth, round with greater potential than anyone still left in free agency at the position. 

 

 

[SmokinwithWilly]

When camps get ready to start and all these WRs are sitting at home on an exercise bike waiting by the phone, you'll see who really has leverage.

[pantherclaw]

They have no leverage.

They can sign the contract offered, taking the opportunity to dramatically improve their career, or they can.move on.