Continuity for Cam?

[toldozer]

Based on those stats im thinking Greg is about to be traded for a line backer. SABOTAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Run Ron and Cam out of town. THAT IS THE PLAN

[Wanderlai]

What happens here if we draft a QB in the 1st 2 rounds verses going with a need? 

[panthers55]

Once again we had a bottom ten offense.  Nobody but Olsen and Cam did much at all. I don't know that a rookie couldn't match what Ginn or LaFell did on offense.  Stop acting like we just lost great players.  Smith was declining and the other guys were JAGs.  Lets be real here, why couldn't McNutt or Pilares match what LaFell or Ginn did last year.  I am sure we will bring in other guys but we didn't exactly have very productive guys to begin with.  Cam make them better than they were and will do the same with whoever we pick up.

[Ken]

Only receiver I care about that is not there is Smith. Didn't want LaFell back, Ginn is easily replaceable as a WR and Hixon barely did anything other than that 1 huge catch.

So a WR rebuild was expected anyway only now there is no Smitty.

[IGSaint]

Just because Cam is good enough to make it work doesn't mean it isn't stupid to let go of every receiver. Instead of learning new stuff and taking their games to the next level most of the offseason is gonna be spent teaching the basic playbook to a whole group of new guys (with no one to mentor them either). Its basically an offseason of development for Cam down the drain. I wonder how Proehl feels at the moment. Imagine busting your ass on a year long project and your boss comes in and throws it all the dumpster and tells you to start over.

 

So what you are saying is we should of overpaid for ginn and lafell's average production?

[VIP]

So what you are saying is we should of overpaid for ginn and lafell's average production?

 

If I was GM I would have at least brought back at least one guy who knows Shula's system and knows what its like to play with Cam. Its gonna the blind leading the blind out there in training camp. And Cam is the one that is going to suffer for it. There is more to winning and developing than raw yardage/TD numbers.

[teeray]

Only receiver I care about that is not there is Smith. Didn't want LaFell back, Ginn is easily replaceable as a WR and Hixon barely did anything other than that 1 huge catch.

So a WR rebuild was expected anyway only now there is no Smitty.

I actually think losing Ginn could be worse than losing Smith

[carolinanimal]

Didn't someone post a stat showing that Cam is the only qb picked in the first round to not have another offensive playmaker drafted past the 7 th round?

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[Sloth]

Cam isn't elite. I love the guy and think he's really good, but he's not elite. Bringing up things Payton or Brady can do doesn't mean much of anything. Also, the clownshoes way we are handling this whole "franchise qb" situation isn't really helping Newton's chances of reaching that level.

 

When we hired our bad offensive coordinator it was argued that continuity was very important for Newton's development. When we re-upped his contract, the same argument was made. Now that Gettleman lost/purged anyone from last season who can catch besides Olsen, continuity is overrated and not needed? Stop.

[IGSaint]

If I was GM I would have at least brought back at least one guy who knows Shula's system and knows what its like to play with Cam. Its gonna the blind leading the blind out there in training camp. And Cam is the one that is going to suffer for it. There is more to winning and developing than raw yardage/TD numbers.

 

You are just typing a bunch of nonsense. It doesn't take a genius to pick up a playbook and learn the system. You are overrating experience which amounts to nothing. And it's not worth overpaying average receivers just because they are familiar with a playbook. This team has too many holes and in too much of a cap hell to be overpaying average players. 

[AceBoogie]

Cam isn't elite. I love the guy and think he's really good, but he's not elite. Bringing up things Payton or Brady can do doesn't mean much of anything. Also, the clownshoes way we are handling this whole "franchise qb" situation isn't really helping Newton's chances of reaching that level.

When we hired our bad offensive coordinator it was argued that continuity was very important for Newton's development. When we re-upped his contract, the same argument was made. Now that Gettleman lost/purged anyone from last season who can catch besides Olsen, continuity is overrated and not needed? Stop.

Ding ding ding

[Ken]

I actually think losing Ginn could be worse than losing Smith

I agree if you mean as a reliable/consistent KR/PR.

Ginn has speed but wasn't that great as a deep threat. I remember a few balls he could have caught deep but he had problems with ball location and crocodile arms. His speed is always a threat tho.

[AceBoogie]

You are just typing a bunch of nonsense. It doesn't take a genius to pick up a playbook and learn the system. You are overrating experience which amounts to nothing. And it's not worth overpaying average receivers just because they are familiar with a playbook.

If it doesn't take a genius to pick up a playbook and learn a system, then do you mind telling me why king and Mcnutt sat in street clothes all year? Since they can easily top the production we have. Why weren't they on the field? Can't say chemistry because you've already said that isn't important, can't say they didn't know the system because that's easy too right? So what's left? Maybe they aren't as good as Lafell and Ginn?

[VIP]

You are just typing a bunch of nonsense. It doesn't take a genius to pick up a playbook and learn the system. You are overrating experience which amounts to nothing. And it's not worth overpaying average receivers just because they are familiar with a playbook. 

 

Maybe, if it looked like we were going to bring some good players in. But we aren't. We're going to be bringing in rookies and underexperienced mediocre vets. You need players that know what is going on to get the best out of those players. Learning a playbook takes time. Developing chemistry takes time. We already run a simplified offense which is part of the problem with productivity. Its only going to be simpler next year.