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Time to make a BOLD move.

panfanman

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Panthercougar68 Grand Master

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Ok. . . thank you for a meaningful response that has some merit. Do you still expect Cam to be here in 2 years? What do you expect to happen given we have no money and will have no money?

 

You know...its like Gman is trying to not sign some super star or something because he's planning on Cam's contract in the future or something.....along with Luke's....Star's......its crazy the notion of keeping cap open later on down the road.

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You do realize we've got 8 chances in the draft + UDFAs (who we hit VERY well on last year) + last wave of FA contracts to get help on offensive side for Cam.  Also, if we maintain this dominant defense (and by retaining hardy, it looks like we shall) we give him just as much help, just on the other side of the ball.  You've all seen Cam's press conferences after wins and losses.  Cam can get the living poo beat out of him, but if we win the game the guy is exuberant.

 

Cam doesn't care how we win games as long we win them.  He could complete 20% of his passes, throw for 5 tds and 50 picks over the season and would be happy if we made the playoffs.  Hes a winner and thats all that matters to him (and us).  I get it, we are all drooling to see Cam come full circle and load him all up with superstar talent on his side of the ball so he can coast to record breaking numbers, but that aint happening unless we hit absolute gold on this draft.

 

Cam himself has accounted for the highest percentage of offensive production than any other player since he has came into the league.  He alone constitutes an offense capable of winning games and he makes everyone around him look better than they are.  We will be perfectly fine.

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With a due respect to Kurb, my neck is on the block with this post.

We are so screwed when it comes to the cap and looking at it for the next 2 to 3 years doesn't look much better. When we do not supply Cam with Oline protection or wr weapons down field do you really think he will want to re-sign for what little money we will have to offer him? Even signing him will strap us from doing anything else. So sit down and take a deep breath before reading any further.

When Cam bolts year after next the best we are gonna get is a 3rd round compensatory pick. Trade him right now today to the Browns for the 4th, 26th, and 35th pick in the draft.(Browns cut their 2 QB's yesterday). You say, "No way, thats not enough! And you would be right. Get ready, don't pass out. Only do this if they agree to also take Jonathan Stewart (they need a RB) and his contract. Stewart's contract is crazy for us. We've got him until 2018 and getting 8 to 10 million a year. Just getting him off this roster will more than make up for loosing Cam for only two 1sts and a 2nd.

With the 4th pick we can trade down to the Vikings or the Lions who have been rumored to have wanted to move up to the 4th pick. We could parlay this into their 1st 2nd and next years 1st.

These two moves would solve our cap issues and load us up on picks to restock our team with talent. We can easily find a good QB in the 1st round this year with either the 4th, 8th or 10th pick.

Love Cam but the writing is on the wall and this is a viable solution.

I quit reading at "trade him right now"

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With a due respect to Kurb, my neck is on the block with this post.

We are so screwed when it comes to the cap and looking at it for the next 2 to 3 years doesn't look much better. When we do not supply Cam with Oline protection or wr weapons down field do you really think he will want to re-sign for what little money we will have to offer him? Even signing him will strap us from doing anything else. So sit down and take a deep breath before reading any further.

When Cam bolts year after next the best we are gonna get is a 3rd round compensatory pick. Trade him right now today to the Browns for the 4th, 26th, and 35th pick in the draft.(Browns cut their 2 QB's yesterday). You say, "No way, thats not enough! And you would be right. Get ready, don't pass out. Only do this if they agree to also take Jonathan Stewart (they need a RB) and his contract. Stewart's contract is crazy for us. We've got him until 2018 and getting 8 to 10 million a year. Just getting him off this roster will more than make up for loosing Cam for only two 1sts and a 2nd.

With the 4th pick we can trade down to the Vikings or the Lions who have been rumored to have wanted to move up to the 4th pick. We could parlay this into their 1st 2nd and next years 1st.

These two moves would solve our cap issues and load us up on picks to restock our team with talent. We can easily find a good QB in the 1st round this year with either the 4th, 8th or 10th pick.

Love Cam but the writing is on the wall and this is a viable solution.

everyone is all business until you start talking about their guys.you seem to be proposing a Herschel Walker type scenario. That won't work, never has... but hey did you know the last 5 SB winners...?

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Dumbest thread ever?

You seriously think the Browns, or anyone, would give up two 1st's and a 2nd?

On top that, they need a RB, not a rehab specialist.

I hope you get permabanned for this nonsense.

There's bold and then there's sheer, unbridled idiocy.

Several teams have given up more for lesser players. So what's your answer to Cam walking 2 years from now?

Sheer, unbridled idiocy is not considering all your options. I bet a Cam trade has been talked about in the front office. This team is in serious trouble with the cap.

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great news you wanted a bold move and you got it the panthers are in contract talks with the 9th best rated wideout in this year's poor class his name is brandon lafell and he dat deal now this is what I call going all in

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You do realize we've got 8 chances in the draft + UDFAs (who we hit VERY well on last year) + last wave of FA contracts to get help on offensive side for Cam.  Also, if we maintain this dominant defense (and by retaining hardy, it looks like we shall) we give him just as much help, just on the other side of the ball.  You've all seen Cam's press conferences after wins and losses.  Cam can get the living poo beat out of him, but if we win the game the guy is exuberant.

 

Cam doesn't care how we win games as long we win them.  He could complete 20% of his passes, throw for 5 tds and 50 picks over the season and would be happy if we made the playoffs.  Hes a winner and thats all that matters to him (and us).  I get it, we are all drooling to see Cam come full circle and load him all up with superstar talent on his side of the ball so he can coast to record breaking numbers, but that aint happening unless we hit absolute gold on this draft.

 

Cam himself has accounted for the highest percentage of offensive production than any other player since he has came into the league.  He alone constitutes an offense capable of winning games and he makes everyone around him look better than they are.  We will be perfectly fine.

Dan Marino anyone? 

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