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You see I'm not some kid that sits and whines because he's team isn't making the moves he wants. I'm sure there are some on here that do. I'm a PSL owner and a College Student. I work my ass off for my money and I spend a good chunk of it supporting this team. I'm financially invested, got my season ticket invoice in the mail recently and guess what? Prices are up. So if you're going to raise prices up on me then I expect a better product on that field. I don't see that. I see rebuilding, I see taking a step back. And because I have to come out of my pocket and fork up my hard earned money, I'm going to continue to complain. Anybody that is sick of it can pay for my season tickets this year and I won't say a damn word.

 

I can totally appreciate where you're coming from..  I'm not even going to rehash any particular issue and care not to get too involved with this one here either..  But picture yourself 30 years from now looking back on all the transitions your team went through in 5 year increments.  It's rare for teams to stay at the top.  It's very cyclical.  Except when you have that one coach and QB combination.

 

It's true, we aren't out of this mess from the last GM.  Matter of fact, we are chest deep in it's bullshit. The next 2 years are going to be a rebuilding period no matter how much anyone hates that simple fact.  It's inevitable.  So then the question remains, how will Gettleman fair?  Sure, everyone can bitch right now.  Although, he did an extremely impressive job last year and if he gets fired in 2 years because that was an aberration then so be it.  Onto the next bad hire from our owner.

 

Doesn't mean everyone has to shut their trap when they are displeased.  But it wouldn't hurt to let the fog settle and stop pretending like every year is going to be the best example of your team it can be.  I hope at this point we've moved past this team's dark ages and there is a renaissance ahead.  If not, it's about time we all balance our budgets and find better ways to wade through the muck while we try to enjoy watching our favorite team win a football game..

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Did you really wanna go into another season with LaFell and Hixon?

Ginn made some good plays last season, but also made enough bad ones that you could justify not throwing the kind of money at him that Arizona did.

As to the free agent crop, if you look back on earlier threads you'll find I never did believe there was a number one available. I was willing to roll with Nicks if Gettleman was, but he wasn't, and who would know better than him?

I've always expected our number one to come from the Draft, and twos and threes you can find in free agency and later rounds. yeah we have needs, but pretty much every expert says the draft is deep right where all our needs are, so...cool.

Smitty? I was expecting him to take a reduced role anyway. Losing him the way we did sucks, but these things happen in the NFL. Yes, it is a business.

Losing Gross hurts too, but again these things happen, You just gotta deal with it.

Will we have another winning season? Derned if I know. What i do know is that the people in charge took us from 15 million over the cap with needs to fill to a division championship without signing a single big name player. So I know it can be done.

With that in mind, I'm ready to sit back and see what happens next.

I understand your point of view, I just don't agree with it. To me this is different from last year. Last year there were more contracts that could be reworked. Who's left to restructure that hasn't already? CJ and Godfrey? We had more pieces already in place last year as well. I just don't see them fielding a better team than last season. You can't deny that as of today we're probably the weakest team in the division. Those other 31 teams gets to draft players as well.

Players are watching, and Carolina doesn't look to welcoming right now. A lot of young WRs like Nicks mentioned wanting to play here because of Steve Smith. We don't have that as a selling point anymore.

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I can totally appreciate where you're coming from.. I'm not even going to rehash any particular issue and care not to get too involved with this one here either.. But picture yourself 30 years from now looking back on all the transitions your team went through in 5 year increments. It's rare for teams to stay at the top. It's very cyclical. Except when you have that one coach and QB combination.

It's true, we aren't out of this mess from the last GM. Matter of fact, we are chest deep in it's bullshit. The next 2 years are going to be a rebuilding period no matter how much anyone hates that simple fact. It's inevitable. So then the question remains, how will Gettleman fair? Sure, everyone can bitch right now. Although, he did an extremely impressive job last year and if he gets fired in 2 years because that was an aberration then so be it. Onto the next bad hire from our owner.

Doesn't mean everyone has to shut their trap when they are displeased. But it wouldn't hurt to let the fog settle and stop pretending like every year is going to be the best example of your team it can be. I hope at this point we've moved past this team's dark ages and there is a renaissance ahead. If not, it's about time we all balance our budgets and find better ways to wade through the muck while we try to enjoy watching our favorite team win a football game..

I completely agree. If Gettleman came out and said hey we are tearing this thing down to build it back up then I'd be fine with that. He's saying that he doesn't plan a drop off from last season. I'm just having a hard time seeing his vision.

If he really did want to resign Ginn and sign Nicks then at this point things aren't going according to plan. If that's the case then I definitely believe there is a cause for concern. Now I know some (myself included) go a little far and over the top. But we come here to vent. We come here because we know we are amongst others who actually give a poo. So I don't take it personal when people here insult me because at the end of the day we all want the same thing.

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I understand your point of view, I just don't agree with it. To me this is different from last year. Last year there were more contracts that could be reworked. Who's left to restructure that hasn't already? CJ and Godfrey? We had more pieces already in place last year as well. I just don't see them fielding a better team than last season. You can't deny that as of today we're probably the weakest team in the division. Those other 31 teams gets to draft players as well.

Players are watching, and Carolina doesn't look to welcoming right now. A lot of young WRs like Nicks mentioned wanting to play here because of Steve Smith. We don't have that as a selling point anymore.

 

Every year is different.  The challenge is pretty much never the same.  And that shouldn't surprise anyone.

 

And if players are watching, they're not just watching Steve Smith.  They're also watching Jordan Gross talking emotionally about how great it was here.  Or they're watching Mike Mitchell talk glowingly about how much he loves the Panthers organization even though he's not one of us anymore.  And there are other examples too.

 

You can't go on the assumption that an NFL player is going to look at the Steve Smith cut the same way a bunch of longtime Panther fans do.  That's highly unlikely to say the least.

 

Every guy out there who's had enough years to be a free agent has been around long enough to see a well-liked teammate get cut.  And not all of them handle it well, but everyone understands that it's a business.  And part of that business is realizing that if other guys who plied a one year stint with us into a big payday, maybe they can do it too.

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Every year is different. The challenge is pretty much never the same. And that shouldn't surprise anyone.

And if players are watching, they're not just watching Steve Smith. They're also watching Jordan Gross talking emotionally about how great it was here. Or they're watching Mike Mitchell talk glowingly about how much he loves the Panthers organization even though he's not one of us anymore. And there are other examples too.

You can't go on the assumption that an NFL player is going to look at the Steve Smith cut the same way a bunch of longtime Panther fans do. That's highly unlikely to say the least.

Every guy out there who's had enough years to be a free agent has been around long enough to see a well-liked teammate get cut. And not all of them handle it well, but everyone understands that it's a business. And part of that business is realizing that if other guys who plied a one year stint with us into a big payday, maybe they can do it too.

We'll see what happens, it's going to be interesting

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