Blind loyalty is running thin.

[MadHatter]

Neither Ginn nor Mitchell wanted to leave Carolina (at least before the Smitty thing,,,).  

 

The dream was being here for a longer term deal with a decent pay raise.  Last season was the prove-it season.  Well, they did exactly that,but instead of being able to settle down for a while and grow some roots with a team, fans and a community that respected them for their efforts, they had to go somewhere else to be rewarded for their efforts.  Yeah, it's a business, and yeah G-man was in a tough position, but I would bet the way he was talking to them a few days ago barely reflected what he was whispering in their ears this time last year.  He ultimately low-balled them (as the market showed), and they got out of Dodge. 

 

Like I said, granted it's a tough time for G-man, but if I can figure this stuff out just from a distance, what do you think that other players who may fancy themselves more talented than the two that just left might be thinking.  Yeah that's all good for a mercenary as G-man calls them, but ironically this is what G-man basically said that he preferred not to have.  Most of the guys still available have varying amounts of experience and degrees of tread left on the tire, and many of them may not want to come as a mercenary, much less leave as one.  And looking at the cap next year, they're probably thinking that this is the last place that they want to come unless they have to. 

 

Gettleman may gave been able to do better by all parties involved this year (including, but noy limited to Nicks), but he made a Hardy gamble. So now we'll just have to sit back and relax, and see if it was worth it.

Going from 1 year $1M .....to 5 year $25M is a FAR cry from a decent pay raise.

[top dawg]

Going from 1 year $1M .....to 5 year $25M is a FAR cry from a decent pay raise.

 

I absolutely agree, but you get what I'm saying, right?

[SuperLego5]

Whatever. You're looking from a layman's perspective. Bottom line: Both of them are gone even though they wanted to stay. Mitchell repeatedly said that he wanted to be here, and Ginn basically said that he was "very surprised" that we didn't do more to try and keep him.  

 

Yeah it's great to be a football player, and great to make hundreds of thousands---even millions----even if you have to move every year. Yeah, we'd take it. But, the fact is that they thought that they'd do it here, and I'm sure that Gettleman led them to believe that if they proved themselves, then that's exactly what would happen.  Mitchell and Ginn didn't come to Carolina expecting to leave. They bet on themselves, that they wouldn't have to. But, like you alluded to, they are football players at the end of the day.

 

BTW, Of course they were staying in temporary housing they had to prove themselves. Furthermore, many football players live in so-called "temporary housing" as a matter of business, regardless.  If you come here , with the cap situation as it is, you better live in temporary housing.  Some of these guys are more marginal players than Ginn and Mitchell anyway.

 

I'm not looking at this from a laymans perspective, I'm looking at this from the perspective of a professional adult. Mitchell and Ginn came here because nobody else was interested, they didn't come here over other teams and take a pay cut because Gettleman told them the following year if they were successful they would be rich beyond their wildest dreams. They have no loyalty to us and we have no loyalty to them. It is simply business and every other player in the NFL see's this as well.

 

I'd argue that agents around the league will be telling their clients (especially DB's) that with out front 7, you want to take a pay cut to come here because they are going to make you look good and the following year you are going to be paid big. I also wouldn't be surprised if we get Nicks over other teams because of Cam. You get great players at important positions and you can fill in the gaps around them. You don't overpay an average safety and leave yourself with no ability to sign any form of WR when you don't have one WR on the roster.

 

We had the choice of paying Hardy (we can lower his cap number if we sign him to a contract which I imagine is the plan) and allowing ourselves to go cheap at DB or pay a couple of DB's and hope that there is no drop off on the DL. Defence was not the problem last year, I have no problems building the defence the same way again. Offence was the problem and so far Gettleman has changed things up, I eagerly await to see what his plan moving forward is. Until we play the first competitive game I will refrain from getting upset over a game about an individual that knows more about the NFL than I will forget about any subject in my lifetime.

[AceBoogie]

We also didn't screw over half the team last year and disrespect players that have been with us since they joined the league.

So was Jesus and you see how they did him (talking about your name)lol

[AceBoogie]

So would you like to have Mitchell and Ginn back in exchange for Hardy?

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No but Mitchell, Ginn, nicks, captain, and Collins? Hell yea

[Kurb]

If this anger causes a good amount of you to jump ship I will like Gettleman even more.