Get use to seeing Goodson all over the place

[pstall]

I will take a gentleman's bet with anyone on Goodson's production this year.

At least 15-20 catches

200-300 yds rec

200-400 yds rushing

500 kick returns

350 punt returns

heck I will throw in 15 tackles on special teams

[Peppers90 NC]

All the talk of Bates aside (who btw ended his career as a Cowboy ), it takes more than speed to succeed in the return game. Mark Jones wasn't fast or big but he was smart and that's why he did so well last year. Goodsen is supposed to be a very smart football player. That is what will get him on the team, as part of special teams. If he's returning the ball, he does need to be patient and wait for his blockers. That's what I picked up from that clip. Either A&M has no blockers or he didn't wait for them. Won't happen the same in the NFL.

He seems to have plenty of upside but every single rookie is always a risk at first. :smilewinkgrin:

He did show the ability in that video to find holes and make cuts that led to open space runs. Very effective in space, but we did not see any highlights on special teams.

[mantal]

Get use to seeing Goodson all over the place

Why, is he a party boy?

He has talent, that is not in question. Will he prove himself in training camp is the question...

[monstercat]

Nice article about him in the Observer today.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/story/866098.html

To me, this is the most encouraging quote from that article...“

We're throwing a bunch at him and he's not making many mental mistakes, so that's a good sign,” said running backs coach Jim Skipper.

It sounds to me like he just needs to answer two questions in camp...

Can he take a hit and not fumble the ball?

Can he stay healthy?

If the answer is "yes" to those two questions, then he has a good chance to make an impact.

[MadHatter]

His hands were ok but Im not sold on him as a WR. Time will tell but most RBs struggle in there Rookie years. ST is def where he could contribute the most this year and if he can do that then he will have a spot.

Actually RB is the position that has the highest success rate for rookies. Your logic is extremely flawed.

[Zod]

Just trying to get the expectations of you silly geese back to a manageable level.

[MadHatter]

Oh, I agree that the hype for this kid is at an extremely high level.

I do not expect him to be a difference maker for our offense. But, I see the ability for him to be a solid situational player and make some plays. I think his biggest upside this season could be as a kick returner. I do think he could make some nice plays as a 3rd down back out of the backfield or as a slot receiver in certain sets.

Not season changing numbers, but a nice added weapon.

[Snake]

Actually rookie RB's seem to transition to the NFL pretty well. Look at Adrian Peterson a couple years ago, and Stewart, Forte and Slaton this past year.

Most backs become more productive in there 2nd and 3rd years. Mairon Barber,Clinton Portis,Frank Gore,Michael Turner,LaDainian Tomlinson ,and Ronnie Brown all had better 2nd years then Rookie. Even Adrian Peterson had a better 2nd year then his first.

[Snake]

Actually RB is the position that has the highest success rate for rookies. Your logic is extremely flawed.

WRONG...... please show me how I am so flawed. Most Rookie success comes from the D-line and O-line. The transitions is not as bad for the lines with the exception of the Center. The worst Rookie failure rate come from QBs and WRs. Both have to learn by leaps and bounds the first year.

[MadHatter]

Most backs become more productive in there 2nd and 3rd years. Mairon Barber,Clinton Portis,Frank Gore,Michael Turner,LaDainian Tomlinson ,and Ronnie Brown all had better 2nd years then Rookie. Even Adrian Peterson had a better 2nd year then his first.

You are correct that most backs become more productive after their rookie season...that is a given. However, RB is still the position where rookies actually have the most success. Aside from picking up the blocking schemes, seeing the hole and exploding through it is more instinctive than taught.

I am not arguing that he will be a success this season or not. I have no idea. I am just saying that I have heard over and over from the experts that RB is typically the position wihere rookies find the most success. WR is often the most difficult.

I would have more hope for him to contribute as a RB than I would for a rookie WR.

[bleys]

I think you're point was misunderstood when you said "Time will tell but most RBs struggle in there Rookie years."

It can be confused/taken as RB's don't have good rookie years, which they do.. I'm guessing your point only had to do with their 2nd year is better than their 1st.

The "struggle" may have been interpreted as "bad", which I don't think was your intention.

[monstercat]

Last year's crop of rookie RB's looked pretty damn good. In fact, I believe Stewart was ahead of where Williams was as a rookie, because he already understood how to pass protect even though he missed all of the OTA's and part of TC.

[jramsey4]

Oh, I agree that the hype for this kid is at an extremely high level.

I do not expect him to be a difference maker for our offense. But, I see the ability for him to be a solid situational player and make some plays. I think his biggest upside this season could be as a kick returner. I do think he could make some nice plays as a 3rd down back out of the backfield or as a slot receiver in certain sets.

Not season changing numbers, but a nice added weapon.

Don't fault people for being optimistic given the obvious athletic ability this kid has. But I do agree with you in that I don't think he will have great stats (at least this year). Where he will really show his work is in freeing up roster space. He can play in the backfield, slot, and as a returner (maybe even a gunner) that kind of versatility is worth its weight in gold.

[Snake]

I think you're point was misunderstood when you said "Time will tell but most RBs struggle in there Rookie years."

It can be confused/taken as RB's don't have good rookie years, which they do.. I'm guessing your point only had to do with their 2nd year is better than their 1st.

The "struggle" may have been interpreted as "bad", which I don't think was your intention.

This. The cream always rises to the top. Dwill in his Rookie year showed he was a good back but just needed time to be great. It was a shame he didnt have a better back in front of him like MJD did.

Last year's crop of rookie RB's looked pretty damn good. In fact, I believe Stewart was ahead of where Williams was as a rookie, because he already understood how to pass protect even though he missed all of the OTA's and part of TC.

Stewart is ahead of Dwill but then again he is more injury prone also. IDK I think both will be great backs but Dwill will be on the field all season long.