The Panthers Front Office doesn't care what you think

[t96]

The ONLY purpose for a business is to maximize profits. Whiners best remember that, it never changes.

 

Oh man shut your anorexic malnutrition tapeworm-having overdose on Dick Gregory Bahamian diet-drinking ass up.

[jayflip]

And you need to understand business better. Why do people go into business and start businesses? Some do it solely for the money. But some do it for the passion of whatever business it is, for example Sal in the movie "Do The Right Thing." Despite racial tensions, he loved making pizzas and seeing children in the neighborhood grow up on his food. Another reason for going into business is to provide a good or service to help people. Why is the NFL successful? The only reason is the fans and that's why the NFL is much worse now than it was before. All fans are complaining about the new rules and preventing defenses from hitting hard without getting a penalty, yet Goodell is doing nothing about it. I don't think there's a single NFL fan who honestly likes Goodell. NFL teams can be businesses focused on winning, but the #1 priority is to make the fan base happy. They're paying the bills. If the majority of the Panthers fans would rather have Smith and no guaranteed Super Bowl (and that's what it seems like) than no Smith and a Super Bowl, then that would be the right decision, regardless of what it means for the teams chances at winning. Which is right? It's all a matter of opinion and it's a tough decision, but what the fans want IS the most important thing. JR has understood that, and Hurney understood that (but that was his fatal flaw because he completely abused it and overdid it and handed out terrible contracts). The tough part of being a GM is putting together a squad that is respectable with decisions making the fans happy, and also being successful in the win category. There's a reason a lot of people hate the Patriots and their fans... And it's not because they win. It's because they are a classless franchise and classless fans who don't care about loyalty to players. If benching Brady and then cutting him meant them winning a Super Bowl, they'd be all in. Gettleman right now is making us like the Patriots, and I can't stand it. I don't care about winning if you win without any class. There is a way to balance it, and many teams have done it and been successful with Super Bowl wins.

Quite possibly the most thought out terrible post I've ever read on here. It's about winning and sustaining success. No player is above the team.

[t96]

Quite possibly the most thought out terrible post I've ever read on here. It's about winning and sustaining success. No player is above the team.

 

That wasn't my point dumbass. My point is that the most important thing in the NFL is making the fans happy. Are you saying an NFL team would be happy with going 19-0 even if no fans showed up to a single game? Not a chance.

[QueensKing]

All this "just business" talk... Cam and Luke's agents are going for the jugular when it's their turn. 

 

If both of those guys can lead this bunch to the playoffs next year, they will have more bargaining power than possibly any players in history.  JR better get that checkbook ready. 

[PanthersBigD]

Oh man shut your anorexic malnutrition tapeworm-having overdose on Dick Gregory Bahamian diet-drinking ass up.

 

Smitty, is that you?

[jayflip]

That wasn't my point dumbass. My point is that the most important thing in the NFL is making the fans happy. Are you saying an NFL team would be happy with going 19-0 even if no fans showed up to a single game? Not a chance.

If a team went 19-0, ticket sales would be through the roof. Thank you for the personal jab though. Emoticon winky face.

[Captroop]

Okay, about this whole "it's a business" thing, and specifically the ostensible business gurus on this particular message board chiding everyone else for not knowing as much businessy business as they do. Yeah, I can see how you saving money on players and clearing more cap space is a business decision, but the problem with this whole business analogy, is that player salaries aren't where franchises make money.

 

Last I checked, franchises make money from US, the fans. WE pay for tickets, WE pay for $9 beers, WE pay for merchandise. So if you are going to insist on sticking with this "it's a business" mantra, then keep this in mind: What pays their bills is what keeps us happy, and the tens of millions they gain by cutting Smith is insignificant compared to the hundreds of millions they stand to lose by pissing off the loyal fans and putting a crappy product on the field.

 

So to those who keep saying it's a business decision, here is a business analogy for you: You own a restaurant. And to save a couple thousand dollars per month, you cut your most popular item (Did I say most popular? I meant all-time best selling, Michelin star rated, and Zagat reviewed dish) from the menu, and replace it with...well nothing basically. You've promised the customers that you're going to replace it with something similar eventually, but something much cheaper, and you're not really sure of the quality. So yeah, you saved a couple bucks, but you just gave a HUGE middle finger to your customers. But even so, you expect them to come back and keep shelling out money like they used to, because hey! After all it's the same restaurant isn't it?

 

Business.

[uncpanther]

I love Smitty as much as the next guy but he is on the downside of his career it happens to every great player that plays in the NFL. Sometimes you have to move on to remain successful, but that is the key when you make descisions like this you better be damn sure there is a plan to keep this team competitive.

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[52Beast]

And you need to understand business better. Why do people go into business and start businesses? Some do it solely for the money. But some do it for the passion of whatever business it is, for example Sal in the movie "Do The Right Thing." Despite racial tensions, he loved making pizzas and seeing children in the neighborhood grow up on his food. Another reason for going into business is to provide a good or service to help people. Why is the NFL successful? The only reason is the fans and that's why the NFL is much worse now than it was before. All fans are complaining about the new rules and preventing defenses from hitting hard without getting a penalty, yet Goodell is doing nothing about it. I don't think there's a single NFL fan who honestly likes Goodell. NFL teams can be businesses focused on winning, but the #1 priority is to make the fan base happy. They're paying the bills. If the majority of the Panthers fans would rather have Smith and no guaranteed Super Bowl (and that's what it seems like) than no Smith and a Super Bowl, then that would be the right decision, regardless of what it means for the teams chances at winning. Which is right? It's all a matter of opinion and it's a tough decision, but what the fans want IS the most important thing. JR has understood that, and Hurney understood that (but that was his fatal flaw because he completely abused it and overdid it and handed out terrible contracts). The tough part of being a GM is putting together a squad that is respectable with decisions making the fans happy, and also being successful in the win category. There's a reason a lot of people hate the Patriots and their fans... And it's not because they win. It's because they are a classless franchise and classless fans who don't care about loyalty to players. If benching Brady and then cutting him meant them winning a Super Bowl, they'd be all in. Gettleman right now is making us like the Patriots, and I can't stand it. I don't care about winning if you win without any class. There is a way to balance it, and many teams have done it and been successful with Super Bowl wins.

 

Carnegie...Rockefeller...and Sal 

 

[t96]

If a team went 19-0, ticket sales would be through the roof. Thank you for the personal jab though. Emoticon winky face.

 

It was clearly an exaggeration, I'm just saying if the fans would rather keep Smith and not win a SB than get rid of him and have a better chance, then that's the right decision. I'm not saying it would be good of the fans to do that, but if the fan base as a whole thought that way, then keeping Smith would be the best decision for the franchise.

[rhyslloyd]

Seriously stfu you whiny little punk.

Thanks. Couldn't agree more.

[twylyght]

Winning fixes everything.  If we are winning 9 months from now no one remembers this conversation nor cares

[Cpt slay a ho]

that it's a business bullpoo is getting old and it's a excused used everytime some dumb move is made by the FO............this is likely the worst outcome anyone could have imagine for us so far.........and it doesn't look like it's getting better

[jayflip]

Okay, about this whole "it's a business" thing, and specifically the ostensible business gurus on this particular message board chiding everyone else for not knowing as much businessy business as they do. Yeah, I can see how you saving money on players and clearing more cap space is a business decision, but the problem with this whole business analogy, is that player salaries aren't where franchises make money.

Last I checked, franchises make money from US, the fans. WE pay for tickets, WE pay for $9 beers, WE pay for merchandise. So if you are going to insist on sticking with this "it's a business" mantra, then keep this in mind: What pays their bills is what keeps us happy, and the tens of millions they gain by cutting Smith is insignificant compared to the hundreds of millions they stand to lose by pissing off the loyal fans and putting a crappy product on the field.

So to those who keep saying it's a business decision, here is a business analogy for you: You own a restaurant. And to save a couple thousand dollars per month, you cut your most popular item (Did I say most popular? I meant all-time best selling, Michelin star rated, and Zagat reviewed dish) from the menu, and replace it with...well nothing basically. You've promised the customers that you're going to replace it with something similar eventually, but something much cheaper, and you're not really sure of the quality. So yeah, you saved a couple bucks, but you just gave a HUGE middle finger to your customers. But even so, you expect them to come back and keep shelling out money like they used to, because hey! After all it's the same restaurant isn't it?

Business.

Meh. Food items on a menu don't age rapidly and have a salary that's unsustainable. If I owned Olive Garden and my signature dish started costing more than the margin on it made sense, I'd probably scrap it. But hey, what do I know? It's not like I run a business or anything...