Johnny Manziel signs deal with Nike

[Mr. Scot]

Nothing like Jacksonville. Cleveland has actually been drafting well they just haven't had the qb and coach to put it together. With manziel as qb they are a coach. Jacksonville has barely any pieces to compete in one of the worst divisions

 

They just fired their GM.

 

[MichaelNewtonII]

Pretty sure he likely went with whoever was offering the most. If that was Adidas, he would've probably signed with them.

I also think it has to do with that he has the same agency as LeBron

[CarolinaCoolin]

They just fired their GM.

Did they cut all their pieces as well? Fact of the matter is that steelers and ravens aren't kings of the division anymore. It's completely up for grabs. Lions were a joke then they got stafford and have been drafting really well and are on the cusp. I think the same is the case for the browns if they get manziel with a good coach. But by all means just write off teams because of their past when that has nothing to do with right now

[Mr. Scot]

Did they cut all their pieces as well? Fact of the matter is that steelers and ravens aren't kings of the division anymore. It's completely up for grabs. Lions were a joke then they got stafford and have been drafting really well and are on the cusp. I think the same is the case for the browns if they get manziel with a good coach. But by all means just write off teams because of their past when that has nothing to do with right now

 

But how much weight does the argument that they've been drafting well really carry when the team just fired its GM?

[PandaPancake]

How long before his knee is taken out by a real defense?

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[CarolinaCoolin]

But how much weight does the argument that they've been drafting well really carry when the team just fired its GM?

Josh Gordon

Joe Thomas

Alex Mack

Paul Kruger

Jordan Cameron

Joe Haden

Barkevious mingo

Tj ward

They have two first round picks this year one of them being 4 overall.

That looks like to me a team that has young pieces and is ready to get a qb and start competing.

It's soo easy for people to not actually take a look at things and say that team sucks cause they have before. It's just super lazy because facts support otherwise

[Evengelion]

I honestly can't take any of your player evaluations seriously since that thread you made. Manziel has real talent. Most people just see his height or his perceived partying attitude as a reason he can't play at this level. The kid is a straight baller.

Josh Gordon is amazing tough. I honestly would have given a 1st for him last year.

Manziel will get his shot to prove himself in the NFL. Can't expect Matthews, Joeckel, and Evans to follow him where he goes, tho. Everybody in college is a baller until the ish get real in the league.

[Mr. Scot]

Josh Gordon

Joe Thomas

Alex Mack

Paul Kruger

Jordan Cameron

Joe Haden

Barkevious mingo

Tj ward

They have two first round picks this year one of them being 4 overall.

That looks like to me a team that has young pieces and is ready to get a qb and start competing.

It's soo easy for people to not actually take a look at things and say that team sucks cause they have before. It's just super lazy because facts support otherwise

And the guy who made all those moves doesn't work there anymore.

The team let him go, so whatever good drafting he did, he won't be doing anymore.

[fjblair]

This endorsement will be the highlight of his NFL career. Way to go little Johnny!

[Jangler]

Some teams don't change. As Razor said a few weeks ago, Cleveland had to leave town and change their name to become relevant. The new Browns are now the old Browns....

 

[CarolinaCoolin]

And the guy who made all those moves doesn't work there anymore.

The team let him go, so whatever good drafting he did, he won't be doing anymore.

You can draft great guys but be a bad gm in other regards scot. Come on you are better than this restrictive thinking

[CarolinaCoolin]

Manziel will get his shot to prove himself in the NFL. Can't expect Matthews, Joeckel, and Evans to follow him where he goes, tho. Everybody in college is a baller until the ish get real in the league.

Yeah but not just anyone beats out cam newton has having the best season of a college player of all time as a freshman then wins the heismann. So your argument is rather lacking

[jarhead]

[Evengelion]

Yeah but not just anyone beats out cam newton has having the best season of a college player of all time as a freshman then wins the heismann. So your argument is rather lacking

Manziel was featured in that offense. Cam was playing within an offense vying for a national championship. Not many people can differentiate those. That's why Cam transition so easily. Did I mention Cam is 6'6 250 pound prototypical pocket passer who ran a 4.56. Manziel is 7 inches shorter and ran a 4.68. That's TE speed. DEs run 4.5 in the league, they'll get to him. Believe that! Manziel was successful but his team wasn't. It's so much easier to accumulate gaudy stats not playing within a system and meaningless games. Cam doesn't run backward or jump on his offensive lineman for no reason. Manziel plays for the Camera. Stop talking about college record because the college QBs who had all the passing record weren't even drafted.