Why did Gross retire?

[Mr. Scot]

I think it's closer to probable, not possible that we take a step back.

 

We got some serious lucky breaks this year.  Hardy going off, couple ball bounces at the end of close games, no injuries to speak of, and a hand full of cheap FA's off the street that contributed.

 

Now we have lost our Pro Bowl LT, have not addressed the WR position, and possibly ran off our starting no. 1 WR.  On top of that we are keeping our fingers crossed that our guards can come back healthy, and we have an OC that looks like his schemes are out of the early 90's.

 

Let's don't forget that Atlanta will be better, and NO is no joke.  I see a step back, but I hope that I'm wrong.

 

I wanna see what happens in the offseason before I'm ready to make those kind of judgments.

 

We could be looking at things very differently in a few months.

 

[thefuzz]

I wanna see what happens in the offseason before I'm ready to make those kind of judgments.

 

We could be looking at things very differently in a few months.

 

 

I agree, and I could be recanting that in 2 months, but it's just more of a gut feeling than a true look at the season.

[Mr. Scot]

I agree, and I could be recanting that in 2 months, but it's just more of a gut feeling than a true look at the season.

 

Pretty much all we've got right now.

 

(that and impatience) :(

 

[TheRed]

I'm curious why many of you think that we are close to winning a Lombardi?

 

We have big holes on this team, at some pretty crucial positions, and very little cap room to upgrade them.

 

This is a playoff team....I think, but we are not all that close to a Super Bowl.  Top 1/3 of the league probably, but not top two or three.

 

Fair point. But who thought that the Giants were going to back into the playoffs, and a Lombardi back in 2008? A lot of teams have a few holes. But the teams that draft well, and we haven't, are the ones who consistently make the postseason. Let's hope Gettleman can get us there.

[thefuzz]

Fair point. But who thought that the Giants were going to back into the playoffs, and a Lombardi back in 2008? A lot of teams have a few holes. But the teams that draft well, and we haven't, are the ones who consistently make the postseason. Let's hope Gettleman can get us there.

 

I think that DG can, with some time, and better cap management.

 

 

Beason, Williams, Stewart, and Godfrey's contracts were really bad, and Kalil's, CJ's, and now Hardy's tag aren't all that good either.

 

This is a process, and DG has a plan, but I just don't see it all coming together this upcoming season.  I am shocked and in awe that we won 12 this year.

[TheRed]

I think that DG can, with some time, and better cap management.

 

 

Beason, Williams, Stewart, and Godfrey's contracts were really bad, and Kalil's, CJ's, and now Hardy's tag aren't all that good either.

 

This is a process, and DG has a plan, but I just don't see it all coming together this upcoming season.  I am shocked and in awe that we won 12 this year.

 

In the end it was our red zone woes that bounced us out of the playoffs. Which was frustrating to watch, because mid season we were rated near the top. Mike Shula has got to get his poo together this year, because our D is going to handle business again, we've gotta score points.

[Mr. Scot]

I am shocked and in awe that we won 12 this year.

 

I honestly think Gettleman and Rivera were too.

 

Granted, that's probably not something they'd wanna say in public, but I think it's true.

[thefuzz]

In the end it was our red zone woes that bounced us out of the playoffs. Which was frustrating to watch, because mid season we were rated near the top. Mike Shula has got to get his poo together this year, because our D is going to handle business again, we've gotta score points.

 

 

The problem I have with Rivera, and Shula heading into the playoffs was very few explosive plays, and an offense that was obviously trending down, not up.

 

We relied on Tolbert and Cam to score our TD's when we got close, we (many of us) knew that it was going to be tough to beat the more talented D's in the playoffs when they know what you have to do to score.

 

We need a better O Line, and some playmakers...badly.

[AceBoogie]

Yep. Those are the only two possibilities. No way it could have anything to do with his family, his health or any other factors :rolleyes:

And no matter that these options would be out of character for him and inconsistent with all the things he's said.

I guess you missed my other post

[Mr. Scot]

I guess you missed my other post

 

Your words from the post i quoted...

 

 

People who play in the NFL can get hurt at any given moment. Players don't retire because they're afraid of getting hurt.

Gross retired either because he just didn't want to play anymore or he doesn't believe this team can win a Super Bowl.

Why did Tony G come back? He ain't broke, he came back because he believed the Falcons had a shot. Now he guessed wrong but that's why he came back.

You see it all the time in sports, there is a reason older players want to play for "contenders"

I can buy that Jordan didn't want to play anymore and that possibly he made a promise to his family that he would call it quits this year, but don't come with that he was afraid of getting hurt poo.

 

In this, you limited the options to those two choices.

 

Sorry, I don't buy either of those options.

 

 

[AceBoogie]

Bingo. This team is going to be so different from last year.

That's really the whole point of this thread. So many people think we are a Super Bowl contender, I believe we are still a few years away. If you don't think Gross's outlook on the team played a roll in his retirement you're crazy. Sure there could have been other factors, but I guy isn't going to walk away from a team he believes is going to the Super Bowl.

[AceBoogie]

Your words from the post i quoted...

In this, you limited the options to those two choices.

Sorry, I don't buy either of those options.

Down at the bottom where I said I can buy his family being a reason, is there a reason you keep skipping it?

[TheRumGone]

I think that DG can, with some time, and better cap management.

 

 

Beason, Williams, Stewart, and Godfrey's contracts were really bad, and Kalil's, CJ's, and now Hardy's tag aren't all that good either.

 

This is a process, and DG has a plan, but I just don't see it all coming together this upcoming season.  I am shocked and in awe that we won 12 this year.

 

i wasn't at all at the end of the day. Rivera started trusting his best player, Cam.  That's when the light flicked on for the entire team.

 

He trusted Cam so much, in the 49ers playoff game, he came up to Rivera and told him to put the ball in his hands on the 1 yard line. Obviously didn't work out the way we liked, but the message was clear. Trust in Cam, and he will lead us.

 

I don't think we are that far off from a Superbowl, crazy things happen, unexpected players step up. Our 6 defensive rookies have a year of experience and playoff experience. Every single team in the NFL has holes. It's scheming around those deficiencies and trusting your best players a la Cam and Keek. 

[Mr. Scot]

Down at the bottom where I said I can buy his family being a reason, is there a reason you keep skipping it?

 

Because the bolded sentence doesn't allow for that option.  You're essentially contradicting yourself.

 

Is it only one of the two choices, or more?