Char vs Miami 3/3

[WOW!!]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD-67jlsY9I

 

I'll show this again just so Proudiddy can take it in.

[MichaelNewtonII]

You guys over reacting just like when melo put up 60. This time the best player in the world, who can't be stopped regardless of who is on him put up 60. He went 8/8 from deep to start, he had a good night. It's not gonna effect anything in the future for us. LeBron and Melo said R.I.P. to the bobcats franchise

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[Proudiddy]

Lets just end the stupidity of Proudiddy.

 

1. Lebron played 41 min Mkg played 26 min. But somebody in this thread really tried to put all 61 points on MKG. Even asking the dumb question of "How many 60 point games did Pippen give up". It seem like Mkg hasn't given up 60 either.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD-67jlsY9I

 

 

After watching this how many points can we attribute to bad defense by MKG?

 

The point being to counter your ridiculously retarded observation that MKG wasn't at fault because Big Al wasn't running out on screens. 

 

Are you really dumb enough to think we're not automatically accounting for substitutions?  LOL.  The general statement, "Did ____ give up 60 points in a game?" is assuming a simpleton would know that the player named was the primary defender.

 

Have you ever thought to yourself, "I see Lebron played 41 minutes, and MKG only played 26.  Hmm... I wonder why?"  Could it be because he was playing horribly and couldn't do anything to stop his man, so Clifford put in someone else?  Nope.  MKG is an elite defender, right?

 

So, you posted a video to mock my mocking, sarcastic comments in response to your stupid hyperbole displacing all blame away from MKG.

 

No one said he was completely responsible for the 61.  BUT, the point was, he was the primary defender on the guy who dropped 61, and thus, didn't do a very good job.

 

So, where was I disproven?  And where were you proven right?

 

Your argument was it was Big Al's fault.  The highlights showed, it wasn't.  You said Big Al needed to run out on the screen, show, and put a hand up on the shooter.  He did, and Lebron still scored.  He switched.  He hedged.  He sagged off.  And MKG was still a victim when he was on him...  Which by the way, at 26 minutes, played more than any other player guarding Lebron.  So, you fail again, at disproving that MKG wasn't at fault for at least slowing Lebron down. 

 

Your argument was that MKG wasn't to blame, and that Big Al was more to blame for not stopping MKG's man.  That my good sir, is "STUPIDITY."  You have yet to prove anything aside from the fact that you are experienced in trolling and backtracking when you are called on your bullshit.

[Rise of The Hive]

Well LeBron shat all over us. It is frustrating that we have improved on team D but all the National people will see is LeBron and Melo abusing us.

[WOW!!]

The point being to counter your ridiculously retarded observation that MKG wasn't at fault because Big Al wasn't running out on screens.

Are you really dumb enough to think we're not automatically accounting for substitutions? LOL. The general statement, "Did ____ give up 60 points in a game?" is assuming a simpleton would know that the player named was the primary defender.

Have you ever thought to yourself, "I see Lebron played 41 minutes, and MKG only played 26. Hmm... I wonder why?" Could it be because he was playing horribly and couldn't do anything to stop his man, so Clifford put in someone else? Nope. MKG is an elite defender, right?

So, you posted a video to mock my mocking, sarcastic comments in response to your stupid hyperbole displacing all blame away from MKG.

No one said he was completely responsible for the 61. BUT, the point was, he was the primary defender on the guy who dropped 61, and thus, didn't do a very good job.

So, where was I disproven? And where were you proven right?

Your argument was it was Big Al's fault. The highlights showed, it wasn't. You said Big Al needed to run out on the screen, show, and put a hand up on the shooter. He did, and Lebron still scored. He switched. He hedged. He sagged off. And MKG was still a victim when he was on him... Which by the way, at 26 minutes, played more than any other player guarding Lebron. So, you fail again, at disproving that MKG wasn't at fault for at least slowing Lebron down.

Your argument was that MKG wasn't to blame, and that Big Al was more to blame for not stopping MKG's man. That my good sir, is "STUPIDITY." You have yet to prove anything aside from the fact that you are experienced in trolling and backtracking when you are called on your bullshit.

No my point was you're stupid for questioning MKG being drafted because he couldn't stop Lebron by himself.

And the video shows that

MkG didn't give up 61 points. Al wasn't stepping up on the high screen and he was moving his feet on defense.

[Proudiddy]

What started the argument:

I know this is Lebron, but nights like these are when I really hate that we picked MKG. If you arent doing poo on defense, what are you good at?

Firestarter:  Point is - MKG sucks at offense, if defense is his calling card, he isn't doing a very good job, so why is he here?

 

How the fug do you stop that? Dude just shot it 5 feet behind the 3 point line. Do you actually think Harrison Barnes would be doing anyting better? Comments like this let me know half of you don't know poo about basketball. Really this is Al not stepping up on the high screen.

A shot at a UNC player that some here had said they would rather have than MKG because he can actually play offense, yet had nothing to do with this game, but is somehow brought into the mix...  Hmmm...  I wonder why.  (HINT: Search user "WOW!!" and the terms "Hendo," "Henderson," "McBob," and "McRoberts.") 

 

Then, sums up our inability to stop one of the best players in the game by saying it's our mobility-limited, defensively-weak center's fault for not standing 25 feet away from the basket the entire defensive sequence.  Notice, all blame displaced from the primary defender and projected onto Big Al.

 

So you criticize me for pointing out MKG not playing up on LBJ when he repeatedly has jacked up the three on consecutive possesions, and then you blame it on our unathletic, immobile 5-man for not running his big ass 28 feet out????

LOL.

I see you are a regular John Wooden yourself.

Valid point.

 

He is playing up. He has a hand up on most of LeBron's shots. Al isn't playing up on the screen at all!! That's why LeBron has room on his shots. Al has to step up on the pick and he is to scared of LeBron's handles to do it.
What game are you watching? ?

Not a valid point.  As was shown in the highlights, Al was only involved in two to three screens, one of which he switched on Lebron and played him man up.  But, again, the point WOW!! wants to drive home here is that Al needs to get on his poo and stop MKG's man.

 

I'm sorry proudiddy but Al is going to have to play up on the high pick or teams will keep using the man he's guarding to set picks. Teams are starting to figure out that Al won't step up on the pick and Roll so now they are using the pick to get wide open jumpers.

WOW!! with yet another reply making no mention of MKG's defensive responsibility.  But, still plenty of drivel about Al not running around like Paul George to help on the perimeter.

 

But that's Al. Point is, with MKG, he shouldn't need that much help off the screen. And again, several of those threes were not with the aid of a screen, it was one on one.

Acknowledging Al is weak defensively on the high pick, but you have to live with the bad to get the good.  Also, I make the point that WOW!!! is greatly exaggerating the number of picks utilized and how many of them were the reason Lebron scored versus Lebron scoring in an iso or at least without the aid of a pick.

 

Do you not see the Mfer picking him off??? You can't play tight defense running threw picks with no back up!!! Al can't be at the freethrow line and not show on a pick. You're giving up wide open jumpers that way. AL DID THIS SAME poo LAST NIGHT. The difference was the Thunder were using Al's man to pick Kemba off Westbrook. Do you kniw anything about basketball? ?

WOW!! reemphasizes that picks were the reason Lebron scored all of those baskets, and the Thunder did as well, so again, it is all Al's fault.  Insults me.

 

 

Lol... well, there you have it... we have to cut Al Jefferson.

He puts up 36 points and 15 rebs, meanwhile, the guy getting torched on defense has a whopping two points while giving up 57, lol.

I'll put my basketball experience, ability, and resume up against yours any day of the week, and I have no idea who you are. If MKG would man up and quit playing like a bitch, it wouldn't matter what the big man does on the pick. You're putting the onus on Big Al for what MKG's man is doing. With an immobile big man, you do not blitz the screen, lol. The primary defender has to fight through the pick when his man has the ball and deny ball at all times when he doesnt. If the offensive player drives or cuts, you collapse. Instead, MKG just sat back on the screen (when a screen was used, which it wasn't to the degree you claim), and then passively hedged it for no fuging reason so Lebron could shoot wide open.

Thank you for your amazing insight into pussyfooting, shitty defensive philosophy, Dr. Naismith.

I take on the role of smart ass because WOW!! doesn't seem to understand man defense and who bears responsibility in a man-to-man defensive setting. 

 

You are a dumb Mfer (who doesn't have a clue about Basketball) if you think 1 player can consistently play a pick and roll or pick and pop or high screen play by themselves. Hopefully some real basketball people in this forum read your post in this thread and laugh at your stupidity.

Personal insults and again, asserting that all 61 points were the result of screens and Al not stepping out on them.

 

LOL...

Just to make sure I wasnt getting wrapped up in this internet pissing match with Red Auerbach and forgetting the facts, I just watched all of Lebron's threes again I the post game.

Guess who the first three was on? Big Al, who switched and was iso'd on Lebron. He put a hand in his face, as WOW! requested, which was according to him, what we needed to stop him, and LBJ made it.

There was a total of three screens used including that play, and one I may be being generous on. Big Al was only invovled in two of them. He switched on one (the first) and sat back and "didn't show" on the other. The other involved McScrub and Tolliver.

So, do you want to keep scapegoating Al or do you have some other strawman to build?

What a joke...

Using actual facts and observations from the game to disprove his idiotic comments.

 

More insults followed and then a refusal to blame anyone else but Al for Lebron's scoring output.  Oh, MKG is not expected to fight through a screen...

 

LOL.

 

Watch Derek Fisher run through a screen...  Maybe a 6'1" athletically-limited guard can show MKG how impossible it is to fight through a screen.

 

From that point, I made more sarcastic comments about how the flawless MKG was projected to be like Pippen, and yet, I don't recall Pippen ever giving up 60 points, regardless of minutes, to the man he was assigned to guard.  WOW!! then tried to bait and switch by changing the argument into saying those sarcastic comments were said in truth, all the while giving up his argument about Big Al and screens...  And so is the life of a troll - bait and switch, bait and switch, bait and switch.

 

Your argument was Lebron's offensive output was in large part due to Big Al not playing out on the screen.  That was disproven.

 

My argument was MKG has the onus of stopping Lebron, as he is the primary defender, and he did not stop him, AT ALL.  He did not slow him down, AT ALL.  He was subbed out as a result because not only could he not slow Lebron, he can't do anything on offense.  Just as was the case when Melo dropped 62 on us.  This was not disproven.

 

There is your argument.

 

STFU.

 

 

 

 

 

[WOW!!]

What started the argument:

Firestarter:  Point is - MKG sucks at offense, if defense is his calling card, he isn't doing a very good job, so why is he here?

 

A shot at a UNC player that some here had said they would rather have than MKG because he can actually play offense, yet had nothing to do with this game, but is somehow brought into the mix...  Hmmm...  I wonder why.  (HINT: Search user "WOW!!" and the terms "Hendo," "Henderson," "McBob," and "McRoberts.") 

 

Then, sums up our inability to stop one of the best players in the game by saying it's our mobility-limited, defensively-weak center's fault for not standing 25 feet away from the basket the entire defensive sequence.  Notice, all blame displaced from the primary defender and projected onto Big Al.

 

Valid point.

 

Not a valid point.  As was shown in the highlights, Al was only involved in two to three screens, one of which he switched on Lebron and played him man up.  But, again, the point WOW!! wants to drive home here is that Al needs to get on his poo and stop MKG's man.

 

WOW!! with yet another reply making no mention of MKG's defensive responsibility.  But, still plenty of drivel about Al not running around like Paul George to help on the perimeter.

 

Acknowledging Al is weak defensively on the high pick, but you have to live with the bad to get the good.  Also, I make the point that WOW!!! is greatly exaggerating the number of picks utilized and how many of them were the reason Lebron scored versus Lebron scoring in an iso or at least without the aid of a pick.

 

WOW!! reemphasizes that picks were the reason Lebron scored all of those baskets, and the Thunder did as well, so again, it is all Al's fault.  Insults me.

 

 

I take on the role of smart ass because WOW!! doesn't seem to understand man defense and who bears responsibility in a man-to-man defensive setting. 

 

Personal insults and again, asserting that all 61 points were the result of screens and Al not stepping out on them.

 

Using actual facts and observations from the game to disprove his idiotic comments.

 

More insults followed and then a refusal to blame anyone else but Al for Lebron's scoring output.  Oh, MKG is not expected to fight through a screen...

 

LOL.

 

Watch Derek Fisher run through a screen...  Maybe a 6'1" athletically-limited guard can show MKG how impossible it is to fight through a screen.

 

From that point, I made more sarcastic comments about how the flawless MKG was projected to be like Pippen, and yet, I don't recall Pippen ever giving up 60 points, regardless of minutes, to the man he was assigned to guard.  WOW!! then tried to bait and switch by changing the argument into saying those sarcastic comments were said in truth, all the while giving up his argument about Big Al and screens...  And so is the life of a troll - bait and switch, bait and switch, bait and switch.

 

Your argument was Lebron's offensive output was in large part due to Big Al not playing out on the screen.  That was disproven.

 

My argument was MKG has the onus of stopping Lebron, as he is the primary defender, and he did not stop him, AT ALL.  He did not slow him down, AT ALL.  He was subbed out as a result because not only could he not slow Lebron, he can't do anything on offense.  Just as was the case when Melo dropped 62 on us.  This was not disproven.

 

There is your argument.

 

STFU.

 

Then I posted the actual video and made you look like a idiot.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD-67jlsY9I

[Proudiddy]

No my point was you're stupid for questioning MKG being drafted because he couldn't stop Lebron by himself.

And the video shows that

MkG didn't give up 61 points. Al wasn't stepping up on the high screen and he was moving his feet on defense.

 

No, that wasn't your point.  See the above post.  You're re-making your argument as you go because you lost your initial effort...  Your argument was Big Al was at fault for Lebron scoring when I questioned what was the point in drafting MKG when he hasn't proven to be that "defensive stopper" that his blind supporters claim he is.  I illustrated Big Al was not at fault, and in fact, was not involved in nearly the amount of screens you claimed he was.  The highlights and video show that.

 

At no point did I say MKG was supposed to stop Lebron by himself.  I said he was to fight through screens and put up more of an effort individually, which he did not, whereas you absolved him of any wrongdoing and as a true genius basketball mind would, said the solution to stopping Lebron was to have a big run out and "put his hand up" so Lebron didn't "have room to shoot."

 

Again, STFU.

 

 

 

[WOW!!]

No, that wasn't your point.  See the above post.  You're re-making your argument as you go because you lost your initial effort...  Your argument was Big Al was at fault for Lebron scoring when I questioned what was the point in drafting MKG when he hasn't proven to be that "defensive stopper" that his blind supporters claim he is.  I illustrated Big Al was not at fault, and in fact, was not involved in nearly the amount of screens you claimed he was.  The highlights and video show that.

 

At no point did I say MKG was supposed to stop Lebron by himself.  I said he was to fight through screens and put up more of an effort individually, which he did not, whereas you absolved him of any wrongdoing and as a true genius basketball mind would, said the solution to stopping Lebron was to have a big run out and "put his hand up" so Lebron didn't "have room to shoot."

 

Again, STFU.

 

How the fug do you stop that? Dude just shot it 5 feet behind the 3 point line. Do you actually think Harrison Barnes would be doing anyting better? Comments like this let me know half of you don't know poo about basketball. Really this is Al not stepping up on the high screen.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD-67jlsY9I

[Proudiddy]

Then I posted the actual video and proved your point.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD-67jlsY9I

FTFY.

 

Here, I'll save you some time and continue to prove my point for you with repeatedly posting a video rather than addressing how stupid you sounded with your initial argument blaming Big Al for MKG not doing anything to slow Lebron.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD-67jlsY9I

 

 

[WOW!!]

And the video keeps proving everything i said was happening.

[Proudiddy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD-67jlsY9I

 

[Proudiddy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD-67jlsY9I

 

[WOW!!]

Keep posting the video all it does is show everybody here how much of a fuging moron you are.

Dumb ass!!!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD-67jlsY9I