Steve Smith on Gettleman's "Evaluation" comment

[panthers55]

Dwill's deal was never through the base salary if I recall..............it was ALLLLL signing bonus. Signing bonus is guaranteed and spread over the life of the deal. Signing bonus is what becomes dead money. Base salary is either paid or not based on if player is on the team. His salary cut was close to 400k if I remember correctly. Only way one can lessen the hit of a signing bonus is to extend the player

You remember wrong.  His total guaranteed money was 21 thousand but his signing bonus was only 16 million. The other five was guaranteeing some of the salary, his workout bonuses, etc. The whole contract was 43 million.  To refresh your memory here is a link.

 

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/carolina-panthers/deangelo-williams/

[MadHatter]

Just listened all the way through, and all I gathered is that I want to punch Keith Larson in the throat. He spent the entire talk stirring the pot and pleading outrage when the reality is that all of this is based off of a sentence from a presser at the combine. I doubt Gettleman is going to get rid of the best WR on the roster, but Smith should just say "no comment" to this BS until he speaks with him directly. And while Gross may have got to leave on his terms, Gettleman didn't exactly beg for him to return either. The franchise isn't run that way anymore.

Smith's on the field production is not worth the salary that he is bring paid... It is that simple.

I would prefer to use that space to sign a younger FA WR.

[Rules&Regulations]

Said it elsewhere: Everyone loves having a GM with big balls...until he cuts your favorite player.

Jerry Rice, Joe Montana, Brett Favre and Peyton Manning all wound up let go from the teams they'd given their best years to.

So yes, much as we'd all hate it, that could happen here as well.

49ers had TO, before that Young, Packers had Rodgers, Colts drafted Luck #1 overall (not to mention Peyton's neck). We have nobody to fill 89s shoes. Not to mention all those players got their rings with their teams, Smith still needs his ;)

[TheRed]

Just how much cap space do people think we are going to have after we sign our key FA's, and possibly tag Greg Hardy? Any receivers we sign would likely be one year band aids again. If you cut a player like Steve Smith, it should be to replace him with a clear upgrade, and we don't have the money to do that.

[SIGCHI222]

Is this a "Fat Elvis" situation?

[MrBubba]

Bottom line you don't spit into the wind, you don't tug on Superman's cape and you don't make the hulk hmmm I mean Smitty angry.

[Mr. Scot]

We have nobody to fill 89s shoes.

 

...yet.

 

There's still free agency and the draft to come.

 

(and yes, they are big shoes to fill)

[Gin and Juice]

Corrected I stand! After playing with that silly cap generator thing that was linked from here, my mind got jumbled with salary numbers and ways to reduce cap. I do remember it showing a significant increase in Cap space cutting CJ on June 1st.......oh hell, don't hold me to that either

[TheRed]

Why would we cut CJ, do people around here like losing seasons? Is there something in the water?

[NanuqoftheNorth]

I keep seeing people talk about how easy it apparently is to cut Steve Smith, but I don't see many suggestions on who we would replace him with. Unless you are thrilled about the idea of Olsen being our quarterbacks only legitimate target in an offense that was already in the bottom half of the league last year. Maybe we should just cut Olsen too since he's making too much money. Cam doesn't need weapons.

Steve can still play a valuable role on this team at the right price. Wasn't he the one who publicly stated it was time for him to play a more limited role on the team?

DG coming from NYC where the media is ruthless should be more media savvy, hopefully this incident helps correct any issues he may have making public statements.

Regardless, we need an upgrade when it comes to the receivers on this team. Part of improving that aspect is not overpaying for what we already have.

[SmootsDaddy89]

On a lighter note, I don't think Steve wants to play anywhere else. He either retires, or was bluffing G-Man thinking he'd cave due to fan (aka retard) pressure to keep Smitty, and will re-sign for a lesser deal if Dave doesn't blink and 89 gets cut.

[TheRed]

Steve can still play a valuable role on this team at the right price. Wasn't he the one who publicly stated it was time for him to play a more limited role on the team?

DG coming from NYC where the media is ruthless should be more media savvy, hopefully this incident helps correct any issues he may have making public statements.

Regardless, we need an upgrade when it comes to the receivers on this team. Part of improving that aspect is not overpaying for what we already have.

I like Gettleman, he seems like a good man, and a smart football mind, and he's done good things so far. But our local media sucks serious ass for the most part, and he's going to have to get used to the fact that most of the time they are only going to be searching for a "gotcha" quote to create anything to write about.

As for Steve, if we are wanting him to rework his deal, which I do believe he would be willing to do, we should approach him, and talk to him about it. I don't see the difficulty in this basic concept, these are men here. Create a dialogue.

[SmootsDaddy89]

Also is it any wonder how Marty Hurney stuck around for so long now? He was perfect for this fanbase.

 

[updownsigma]

Corrected I stand! After playing with that silly cap generator thing that was linked from here, my mind got jumbled with salary numbers and ways to reduce cap. I do remember it showing a significant increase in Cap space cutting CJ on June 1st.......oh hell, don't hold me to that either

 

Link? Looked through the thread but couldn't find it and I want to waste some time lol