Thoughts on Martavis Bryant?

[Riverboat Ron]

I've been talking about Bryant for a couple weeks. He's certainly a boom or bust prospect, but I'd be hard pressed to find a WR with the height to speed ratio Bryant has. He probably would've benifitted from another year at Clemson but I can understand leaving when you lose your starting QB. I fully expect him to go in the 2nd round.

[carpanfan96]

If he runs a high 4.2 and looks good in drills, he'll sky rocket into the second round just on potential alone. 

[heel31ok]

If he runs a high 4.2 and looks good in drills, he'll sky rocket into the second round just on potential alone. 

 I don't know where this came from but Bryant ain't running no 4.2. I would probably look for 4.4 -4.5

[carpanfan96]

 I don't know where this came from but Bryant ain't running no 4.2. I would probably look for 4.4 -4.5

 

He ran under a 4.3 at Clemson last year and was one of the fastest players on the team up there with Watkins. He could easily run a 4.27/4.28. He's pretty comparable to Watkins speed wise and I'd honestly be shocked if he ran a 4.5. 

[heel31ok]

He ran under a 4.3 at Clemson last year and was one of the fastest players on the team up there with Watkins. He could easily run a 4.27/4.28. He's pretty comparable to Watkins speed wise and I'd honestly be shocked if he ran a 4.5. 

we won't have to wait too long to find out.

[sazmo89]

Huge Clemson fan here. I'll reiterate other people's thoughts. Great size, elite speed, and good hands. He has been the fastest kid at Clemson(including Watkins) the past 3 years. My biggest issue is his production. He's played in a pass happy offense and had Watkins on the other side of him all year and still struggled to make plays. All last offseason we heard he was lights out in practice and was going to be a star this year but it just never came to fruition. I love him as an athlete but not as a football player. I think he really could've helped his stock by staying in school one more year. I'd be willing to spend a 4th/5th if our coaches think they can coach through his learning curve.

[carpanfan96]

we won't have to wait too long to find out.

 

Do you think Watkins is going to run a 4.5? The only reason I ask is because Bryant is just as fast if not faster then Watkins. 

[heel31ok]

Do you think Watkins is going to run a 4.5? The only reason I ask is because Bryant is just as fast if not faster then Watkins. 

 I think Watkins will run 4.3 - 4.4 range . I think he is faster than Bryant. The good thing is we do not have to wait long to find out.Watkins is quick off the bat, bryant a long strider who is fast on the top end.

[carpanfan96]

 I think Watkins will run 4.3 - 4.4 range . I think he is faster than Bryant. The good thing is we do not have to wait long to find out.Watkins is quick off the bat, bryant a long strider who is fast on the top end.

 

Yes we will. I wish the NFL would use FAT and actually release the data. Most of these guys aren't this faSt. A NFL combine 4.28 is really a 4.49-4.51. I'll use an example that shows how bad the combine watches are in showing an actual time. They won't though because it would hurt the players feelings. lol. You add .21-.24 to every time you see to get a more accurate 40ty time. 

 

Larry Fitzgerald ran a 4.63 at the Combine, if you used correct timing his actual 40ty would be a 4.87.

[davos]

He came out a year too early imo.  Doesn't mean I wouldn't take a flier on him in the 4th/5th but it's hard to gauge his curve.  

[332nd]

Another guy you might want to watch is a small school guy named Jeff Janis.  Saginaw Valley State I think.  Pretty fast kid and also fairly tall.

 

Cool, thanks.

[332nd]

Huge Clemson fan here. I'll reiterate other people's thoughts. Great size, elite speed, and good hands. He has been the fastest kid at Clemson(including Watkins) the past 3 years. My biggest issue is his production. He's played in a pass happy offense and had Watkins on the other side of him all year and still struggled to make plays. All last offseason we heard he was lights out in practice and was going to be a star this year but it just never came to fruition. I love him as an athlete but not as a football player. I think he really could've helped his stock by staying in school one more year. I'd be willing to spend a 4th/5th if our coaches think they can coach through his learning curve.

 

Yeah, I was looking over the youtube highlights last night & I noticed almost all of them have the same set of plays. Not unexpected for a college player (Jr at that) but as you said, with Watkins on the other side & people keying on him, it seems like Bryant should have some more looks. For example, on the 2-3 minute clips, Watkins has several "wow" plays that repeat, then several of the favorite plays of whomever uploaded the vid. Bryant just has the same plays.

 

 

ETA: As a side note, this coverage is officially the NF-manzieL Network...

[heel31ok]

Yeah, I was looking over the youtube highlights last night & I noticed almost all of them have the same set of plays. Not unexpected for a college player (Jr at that) but as you said, with Watkins on the other side & people keying on him, it seems like Bryant should have some more looks. For example, on the 2-3 minute clips, Watkins has several "wow" plays that repeat, then several of the favorite plays of whomever uploaded the vid. Bryant just has the same plays.

 

 

ETA: As a side note, this coverage is officially the NF-manzieL Network...

 a good site to go to is Draftbreakdown.com     right now the have the combine numbers but with some effort you can get to their prospects list and they put up individual highlight videos for most of the players.most of the wR prospects have at least one video.

[332nd]

 a good site to go to is Draftbreakdown.com     right now the have the combine numbers but with some effort you can get to their prospects list and they put up individual highlight videos for most of the players.most of the wR prospects have at least one video.

 

Cool, thanks.