Gettlemen Combine interview

[heel31ok]

The Answer was always on Hurneys roster until he got canned so....

 

AE, Gattis, etc weren't the answer at WR and sorry but if King or McNutt were they would have contributed here or somewhere else before we picked them up out of the garbage.

 it is a cant lose situation. if they don't work out they are gone. I say worth the risk.

[heel31ok]

We'll see, but it's been said and done here before(the whole WR is on the roster bs)

 

Gettlemen is a real GM though and he's had one good off-season in his lone year so there is no reason not to trust him, I just don't like hearing that when its almost never true when you have as big of a WR deficiency as we do.

agree with the WR deficiency. As for DG seems to know what he is doing but after one year even if successfull I do have reason not to trust yet. things look good but I will wait and see before I fully trust.

[El Chingon]

I have full trust in Gettelman.

[heel31ok]

according to who? You?

I bet you every huddler can do a draft board, and not one huddler would get their board the same as Gman and company.

different doesn't mean one is right -BPA is who you like.i would agree Kugbila was a reach especially if you look to see who was left.

[heel31ok]

I think his point was that we don't know what Gettleman's draft board look like(at least I hope it is) 

 

It is quite possible he was BPA on our board. Because most people(including myself) don't see how he was BPA at that pick, that doesn't actually mean he wasn't on the Panther's board.

which is why i think many misinterpret what BPA means.of course you draft for need but according to the need you prioritize on your own board.

[nagai]

which is why i think many misinterpret what BPA means.of course you draft for need but according to the need you prioritize on your own board.

 

Well yes. I guess it may not be obvious to the lower end of our genetic pool, but teams aren't just going to grade players with Mel Kiper's draft board :huh:

[heel31ok]

Well yes. I guess it may not be obvious to the lower end of our genetic pool, but teams aren't just going to grade players with Mel Kiper's draft board :huh:

 that is not even close to the point.It has to do with BPA and some smug draft snobs thinking that is the golden road map to draft nirvana.then saying need is not a factor when it is impossible not to be a factor.

[carpanfan96]

 that is not even close to the point.It has to do with BPA and some smug draft snobs thinking that is the golden road map to draft nirvana.then saying need is not a factor when it is impossible not to be a factor.

 

 

Yea, it's definitely a factor. Best way to make an example of it is using the following

 

 

If you have three players on your board and one's a rated a 88/100 and the other two are 77-80/100 then you take the player that's an 88 because of his value. However if you have three players rated similar, then you take the player that best fits your team at a position of need. It's BPA if the gap between the BPA and a player of need is to great to pass up. 

[d-dave]

I was thinking about the whole BPA thing reading draft stuff. Everyone's definition is going to be different due to need based value. So let's say you have one of the QBs falling and he's best overall player, did he became your BPA?

No. We don't need a Qb in round one. I believe that BPA is based on how much you need that particular position. Like last year with our double dip in DT.

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[jptaylor84]

I tend to think BPA stands for best position 'of need' available! Not best player available because you would always pick a position you don't necessarily need to fill, although as gettleman said depth isn't a bad thing but you don't want 5 DTs lol.

[DaCityKats]

the panthers have invested with numerous mid picks also.

Just cause thise investmemts haven't worked out, doesn't change the fact.

 

so since those picks havent worked out, why continue to invest in mid round picks. Adams and Pilares are the same type of WR, and was taken in the 4th and 5th rounds. those teams you listed has several guys taken in the 3rd or higher rounds. while other guys developed, those teams where still investing in the position.

 

[cookinbrak]

It's like the talking stain from the Tide commercial is here. "We might not take a WR in the 1st round......"

 

'BLAAAH......BLAHBLAHBLAH.......BLAAAAAAH........BLAH.......BLAHBLAH!!!!'

[jptaylor84]

so since those picks havent worked out, why continue to invest in mid round picks. Adams and Pilares are the same type of WR, and was taken in the 4th and 5th rounds. those teams you listed has several guys taken in the 3rd or higher rounds. while other guys developed, those teams where still investing in the position.

So because one general manager who was for the majority of his time in charge a poor evaluater and made bad picks and choices in the mid rounds of drafts, we shouldn't do that anymore under a new general manager who actually has a scouting and player evaluation background?

How does that even make sense?, you usually get three starters maybe four if your lucky with your first four picks and the other three are mainly to develop and use as depth, gurneys philosophy should by no means alter what we do, because one guy is bad at making choices doesn't mean the next guy in will be too.

[DaCityKats]

So because one general manager who was for the majority of his time in charge a poor evaluater and made bad picks and choices in the mid rounds of drafts, we shouldn't do that anymore under a new general manager who actually has a scouting and player evaluation background?

How does that even make sense?, you usually get three starters maybe four if your lucky with your first four picks and the other three are mainly to develop and use as depth, gurneys philosophy should by no means alter what we do, because one guy is bad at making choices doesn't mean the next guy in will be too.

 

no i was meaning that you should not invest mid rounders at one position such as WR, if you cannot scout them properly. the old GM brought in several starters in the mid to late round, and  that is where your GM separates himself from the others. as much flack Hurney got, he also brought in CJ, Hardy, Schwartz, and others that have started for this team and others who were mid round- late picks.