Cam saying he WON'T hold out for new deal

[Doc Holiday]

Honestly people the sooner re sign cam long term the better, the longer Cam plays for us the bigger that contract extension he gets will be.

[YoungPanthers89]

Love ya Can Nootan

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2014/02/17/4702857/panthers-cam-newton-says-he-wants.html

[OneBadCat]

True, but also Cam is not the type who will 'fight' for a contract. He knows there are teams with a load of cap space and better weapons that would line up to get him. Remember, Cam didn't choose the Panthers, with their dire financial situation and limited talent. Yes, when Cam came to the panthers they barely had a franchise type players on the roster. Cam bought them time so they could spend the last 3 drafts on defense. This craziness is unheard of.

 

Barely had franchise type players?

 

Steve Smith, Kalil, Jordan Gross, Gamble, Beason , TD

 

 

We put the right weapons around Cam in 2011. We picked up Shockey and Olsen. We didn't just decide to pick defense in the past two drafts. We had premier talent fall to us. Luke Keuchly and Star are going to be top 5 players at their position. That's not something you pass when they are the BPA.

 

Gettleman will get Cam weapons. We have to and everyone knows it. You act like Rivera and DG are just throwing Cam to the fire and watch him struggle. I'm pretty damn sure they care about their jobs. 

[Guest Dark Knight]

I don't think he wants to test FA, but he don't want to keep looking up and Nate chandler doesn't know who to block and Byron Bell can't block, then look downfield and see that Lafell still ain't open even after you've avoided the whole dline already.

It comes a time in every great player's career that they realize that they can't win it alone. I think Cam coming in believed he could carry a team the way he did in college, well that don't work in the NFL. I don't care how good a qb is you give him subpar talent to throw to and he don't look so great.

This team has done ZERO to build around Cam. Why would he bang down their door for an extension. Just like he had to prove that he's a franchise qb, they have to prove they are serious about getting him some talent. Don't think what Cam said at the pro bowl wasn't calculated. He wants better talent around him. If they don't provide that pretty soon it's going to take a lot to keep him here.

Really? They put the 2nd best defense in the NFL around him.

What did all those weapons do for NO, NE, DEN, etc? Defense winds Lombardi trophies. Cam has an elite defense. Now they'll get him weapons & fix the line.

[IGSaint]

I can't think of a single QB who would actually hold out for a new deal. QBs just don't do that. That's a RB and DB thing to me.

 

Drew Brees did just that. 

[Woodie]

Really? They put the 2nd best defense in the NFL around him.

What did all those weapons do for NO, NE, DEN, etc? Defense winds Lombardi trophies. Cam has an elite defense. Now they'll get him weapons & fix the line.

Yep, building a team is a process, and the first part of that process was fixing the defense and special teams.  This year will be the offenses turn.

[t96]

Except this one.

 

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1256412-drew-brees-holdout-contract-dispute-adds-to-new-orleans-saints-pr-nightmares

 

and yes it is Bleacher REport, but it was the first link I found. 

 

Ehh, that wasn't really a true holdout. He didn't miss training camp or offseason meetings while that was going on. I see a holdout as someone wanting a contract not going to practices, and wouldn't play in games if it carried into the season. Like MJD a little while ago.

[Evengelion]

Barely had franchise type players?

 

Steve Smith, Kalil, Jordan Gross, Gamble, Beason , TD

 

 

We put the right weapons around Cam in 2011. We picked up Shockey and Olsen. We didn't just decide to pick defense in the past two drafts. We had premier talent fall to us. Luke Keuchly and Star are going to be top 5 players at their position. That's not something you pass when they are the BPA.

 

Gettleman will get Cam weapons. We have to and everyone knows it. You act like Rivera and DG are just throwing Cam to the fire and watch him struggle. I'm pretty damn sure they care about their jobs. 

I agree with the rest of your post but as for the bold, I stood corrected on that. Two of those players are on their last leg to retirement and one of them we gave him up with nothing in return and drafted Keuchly to replace him. If Beason were a franchise player we would have used the Keuckly pick on a WR or OT. Keuchly was a replacement, not an addition. Beason played pretty well for the giants. Behind our DL I think our defense would be as effective with Beason. Going that route we would right now have a legitimate franchise LT in Ryan Reif(the OT selected after our pick). I think a franchise LT is more valuable than a franchise ILB. Only Cam gets to suffer from poo like. Top 5 or not Keuchly had his touch moments throughout the year. One of them being the the interference call that give the joke EJ Manuel another opportunity to steal a win.

 

When the offense was putting up points in 2012 it was a Keuchly manned defense that was giving up all the leads late in games. I'm not knocking Keek at all, just saying there are specific positions on the football field where you specifically need elite talent. ILB is not one of them because their weakness can easily be disguise with schemes and a great DL.

 

The average age of the NFL is 25, so a franchise type player is someone who is around that age.

 

[Frizzy350]

I agree with the rest of your post but as for the bold, I stood corrected on that. Two of those players are on their last leg to retirement and one of them we gave him up with nothing in return and drafted Keuchly to replace him. If Beason were a franchise player we would have used the Keuckly pick on a WR or OT. Keuchly was a replacement, not an addition. Beason played pretty well for the giants. Behind our DL I think our defense would be as effective with Beason. Going that route we would right now have a legitimate franchise LT in Ryan Reif(the OT selected after our pick). I think a franchise LT is more valuable than a franchise ILB. Only Cam gets to suffer from poo like. Top 5 or not Keuchly had his touch moments throughout the year. One of them being the the interference call that give the joke EJ Manuel another opportunity to steal a win.

 

When the offense was putting up points in 2012 it was a Keuchly manned defense that was giving up all the leads late in games. I'm not knocking Keek at all, just saying there are specific positions on the football field where you specifically need elite talent. ILB is not one of them because their weakness can easily be disguise with schemes and a great DL.

 

The average age of the NFL is 25, so a franchise type player is someone who is around that age.

 

No chance in hell our defense would be as effective with Beason over Keuchly.  Keuchly is significantly more athletic, has much better instincts (and Jon's were very good) and Keuchly plays MLB like a QB.  You ever see him get into audible wars at the LOS against opposing QBs only to see the play end up being a 1 yard gain?  Yea... Beason never did anything like that.  Beason would never sniff a 24 tackle performance or a DPOY award.

 

In 2012 our defense flipped from around rank 28 to top 10 once Keuchly moved to the middle.  Most of the 2012 late game leads we lost were more or less caused by Rivera's calls to not lose the game, hence his huge philosophical turnaround that gave him the nickname Riverboat Ron (particularly the buffalo game, where kicking that field goal on 4th and short set us up for a loss, nothing else).

[Major wRecktum]

In my opinion, the Panthers sucking the first couple of seasons he was here was the best thing that could have happened to him.  Him having to swallow the  bitter pill of losing, no matter how much effort he put out on the field, will serve him and all of us fans well in the future.

[camtheone]

Class act.  He knows he's good but wants to be elite...knows he will get paid soon...KEEP POUNDING!

[Guest Dark Knight]

In my opinion, the Panthers sucking the first couple of seasons he was here was the best thing that could have happened to him. Him having to swallow the bitter pill of losing, no matter how much effort he put out on the field, will serve him and all of us fans well in the future.

Cam is too damn competitive to swallow a losing pill. He'll chew that fuger up & spit it out.

Cam doesn't really resemble any football player, especially QB, that I can think of. But he does have 3 traits of 3 great basketball players.

LeBron James type physical specimen

Magic Johnson smile

Michael Jordan competitive drive

[Evengelion]

No chance in hell our defense would be as effective with Beason over Keuchly.  Keuchly is significantly more athletic, has much better instincts (and Jon's were very good) and Keuchly plays MLB like a QB.  You ever see him get into audible wars at the LOS against opposing QBs only to see the play end up being a 1 yard gain?  Yea... Beason never did anything like that.  Beason would never sniff a 24 tackle performance or a DPOY award.

 

In 2012 our defense flipped from around rank 28 to top 10 once Keuchly moved to the middle.  Most of the 2012 late game leads we lost were more or less caused by Rivera's calls to not lose the game, hence his huge philosophical turnaround that gave him the nickname Riverboat Ron (particularly the buffalo game, where kicking that field goal on 4th and short set us up for a loss, nothing else).

We would be a better team with Beason as the MLB behind our DL and a franchise LT in Riley Reif(now in Detroit) to protect Cam's blind side. You'd imagine he'd be playing RT until Gross retired, so both our running game and pass protection would be stellar. Right now we just have a good defense with an offense that's falling apart with old players and young players barely worthy of a contract. Remember, Keuchly replaced a very good starter in Beason. It's not like we added an extra franchise guy. Also, Beason missed the entire 2011 and 2012 season due to injury. So you can't say Keuchly replaced him and the team suddenly did better. So, to have Keuchly we lost Beason and a franchise LT. Think about it. I assure you most GMs would chose two very good starter over one great one any day. That's why teams trade down all the time to get multiple picks instead of just one.

 

Hurney screwed a lot of things up. Maybe he knew he was getting fired so he screwed as many things up as possible.

 

[CashNewton22]

This is much ado about nothing. Gettleman knows that you have to pay franchise QB's top dollar and Cam will get just that. The question is can we convince him to not squeeze EVERY penny out of the Panthers so we can build a competitive team around him consistently. I wouldn't be mad if he did command top dollar but I personally believe he won't.