Would you trade Charles Johnson to keep Greg Hardy?

[rayzor]

we would save a grand total of $160k (and yes...that is $160,000) by trading CJ.

 

his cap number this year (base + prorated bonus) is $16,420,000 ($8.75mil salary + 7.42 from the bonus).

 

there is still $16,260,000 that we still have to account for that was bonus paid up front. while he's on the roster, it's split up between the next few years ($7.42 this year and next year and then $1.42 in 2016, the last year of his contract). if we were to release him or trade him, the proration immediately accelerates into this year's cap...which means we'd still take a hit of nearly $16.5 mil. only we wouldn't have CJ on the DL nor would we be able to do much of anything else since we'd still have to pay hardy a huge contract.

 

so no....i wouldn't do this. this would be monumentally dumb. there is no benefit whatsoever to trading CJ but keeping hardy.

 

 

[rayzor]

    What team could/would trade to take on that kind of contract?

 to be honest, that wouldn't be a bad contract to absorb.

 

the team that got him would get a top end DE who is under contract for 3 years at a salary of $8.75mil this year, 9.75mil next year, and 10.75mil his third year.

 

that's not a bad deal, imo.

[TheRed]

Great, another thread where someone thinks we can pull off a magical trade with zero repercussions like this is franchise mode on Madden, and not reality. CJ is the superior DE right now, yes Hardy is good, but he isn't on CJ's level yet. Charles Johnson isn't going anywhere.

[carolina-chuck]

I'm pretty sure teams would rather trade for a younger Greg Hardy than for Charles Johnson.

 

Imo, Johnson is the better player anyway. Been production in his entire career without needing someone across from him. We all saw how much he mean to this team when he left in the 2nd half of the New England game.

[Peppers90 NC]

No I think CJ is better and his cap hit would be detrimental. 

[TheRumGone]

CJ is the best de we have. He's not worth that contract but it is not insane for the production and leadership he puts on the field.

[Vagrant]

lol what a stupid idea

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Yeah, it's a hell of a lot dumber than losing Hardy for nothing and getting zero assets back. If you could sneak into the early 2nd round with a team like Oakland on a deal like this, keep it cap neutral to a degree, and pick up the player and the pick for Johnson it would be a dumb idea? Are you underrating Hardy that much or overrating Johnson?

 

You may not like the idea, but this concept that every proposed solution to this problem that Hurney left us is LOL STUPID is pretty annoying. It's a lot easier to criticize than it is to actually think of a better alternative.

[Peppers90 NC]

Yeah, it's a hell of a lot dumber than losing Hardy for nothing and getting zero assets back. If you could sneak into the early 2nd round with a team like Oakland on a deal like this, keep it cap neutral to a degree, and pick up the player and the pick for Johnson it would be a dumb idea? Are you underrating Hardy that much or overrating Johnson?

 

You may not like the idea, but this concept that every proposed solution to this problem that Hurney left us is LOL STUPID is pretty annoying. It's a lot easier to criticize than it is to actually think of a better alternative.

once you realize the cap hit we would take for trading CJ or whatever your proposition is, we probably wouldnt even have enough money to sign Hardy to a moderate contract, much less what he is looking for.  You are overrating Hardy if you think he is better than CJ.

[Panthers8969]

I'd rather have a hamburger than a hot dog.

Hahaha your username made this post extra funny

[poorboysrev]

 to be honest, that wouldn't be a bad contract to absorb.

 

the team that got him would get a top end DE who is under contract for 3 years at a salary of $8.75mil this year, 9.75mil next year, and 10.75mil his third year.

 

that's not a bad deal, imo.

Gotcha.  I didn't know what his cap hit would be for other teams,  just that it is high for us. Like you said in your other post that is from prorated signing money. Basically though like you said there would be little to no gain to do it so it wouldn't make sense

[Hammerin'Cameron34]

Lol yeah CJ is better at the end of the day.

[Rise of The Hive]

No, I would not.

[Evengelion]

16 mill? Those DEs/DTs gets paid.

[PantherFanOne]

I'd rather have a hamburger than a hot dog.

 

Hmmmm!!!! Is that how you got the name " FattyFatFat ? :)