Team Attitude: "The status quo doesn't work"

[rayzor]

John Fox, he is not.

As I've said a 1000x before, I adore Ron Rivera The Man, but now I'm ecstatic about The Coach (I hope he continues to grow). Gettleman and Rivera could end up being a potent mix for the NFL.

i had the same reaction.

 

i just didn't see that with fox and hurney. i saw complacency after the superbowl trip.

 

i see hunger with rivera and gettleman and that's spreading to the rest of the team.

 

i see us getting better next year and i see that growth continuing going down the road. i think we have the right guy managing the cap to keep us perrenial winners and i see riverboat ron being the guy that keeps us moving forward.

 

of course there is that little matter of an underachiving OC that i don't believe has proven himself to be worthy of the job, but hopefully that changes this year.

 

i fully believe that we've got a lot of the right players for us to grow as well. the culture has changed in carolina. drafting newton was actually the first step in that culture change, imo. this is a hungry team striving to be excellent instead of just good enough (which was what fox's standard was).

 

 

[lola]

I've never been more excited to be a fan, and that includes after the 2003 season. It feels good to admit how wrong I was about Rivera. I can honestly say that I am putting my trust (read: heart) into Getts and Rivera's hands, but this time I don't worry about getting betrayed. 'Tis nice.

[jptaylor84]

A string minded GM has been missing for a long time, Gettleman came in cleaned house with the old philosophy and his own rubbed off on Rivera and the coaching staff, I think we are heading for great things as a franchise, but that aside the change on the field this year was all down to Ron Rivera, after that Arizona game I admit I doubted him and was angry but the way he pulled that team together and the season wound up, whatever happens from now on il always have huge respect and admiration for him, you see what a man and a coach is made of with there back against the wall, Gettleman looking down above on Ron and Cam saying now is the time to win and they did it.

Rivera and Gettleman together are trying to change an attitude around this franchise, 2013 was a good start.

[Argus Plexus]

Gett Dawg is a business man at heart, that's why.

[panthers55]

That leads me back to a question I've asked before:

 

What's the bigger reason why the Panthers became a winning team this year?  Was it because of Ron Rivera's change in attitude or because Dave Gettleman helped build a better roster?

 

Naturally, both are valid.  I just wonder which one people see as more important.

I think it was both.  Rivera had ultimate faith in Newton and the offense many times allowed them to win the game on a 4th and short as part of a late drive.  Newton needed someone to believe in him, something I got the impression that Chud did not do.  And Newton and the offense flourished and performed well at critical times.

 

Because the defense was so stout it took pressure off of Newton to win it all and allowed him to fit into the offense, not be the whole offense.  The defense was largely fueled by improved players at critical positions. And special teams was a huge factor that many folks overlook. 

I don't think you can use an either or approach since it took better players to upgrade the talent and the staff to put the players in position to win. You could see the defense blossom over the last half of the season and really start to dominate other team's offenses.  It was an attitude born of success.

 

I expect that we will upgrade the offense as well as the secondary this year.  Honestly I expect us to be even better than last year.

[Mr. Scot]

I think it was both.  Rivera had ultimate faith in Newton and the offense many times allowed them to win the game on a 4th and short as part of a late drive.  Newton needed someone to believe in him, something I got the impression that Chud did not do.  And Newton and the offense flourished and performed well at critical times.

 

Because the defense was so stout it took pressure off of Newton to win it all and allowed him to fit into the offense, not be the whole offense.  The defense was largely fueled by improved players at critical positions. And special teams was a huge factor that many folks overlook. 

I don't think you can use an either or approach since it took better players to upgrade the talent and the staff to put the players in position to win. You could see the defense blossom over the last half of the season and really start to dominate other team's offenses.  It was an attitude born of success.

 

I expect that we will upgrade the offense as well as the secondary this year.  Honestly I expect us to be even better than last year.

 

You're the psychology guy, but I'll give you my read on Chudzinski anyway.

 

I think Chudzinski was one of those "I'm a genius, so if you'll all just shut up and do exactly as I say we'll win" guys.  And when things went wrong, I'd guess his response was "Well, I didn't make any mistakes.  It must be you guys."

 

You can get away with that kind of attitude if you're a proven winner.  If you're a guy still needing to prove himself, not so much.

[CatMan72]

That leads me back to a question I've asked before:

 

What's the bigger reason why the Panthers became a winning team this year?  Was it because of Ron Rivera's change in attitude or because Dave Gettleman helped build a better roster?

 

Naturally, both are valid.  I just wonder which one people see as more important.

 

Interesting question, because I think Gettleman helped encourage Rivera's change in attitude with comments like "make us come to you". 

 

 

[panthers55]

You're the psychology guy, but I'll give you my read on Chudzinski anyway.

 

I think Chudzinski was one of those "I'm a genius, so if you'll all just shut up and do exactly as I say we'll win" guys.  And when things went wrong, I'd guess his response was "Well, I didn't make any mistakes.  It must be you guys."

 

You can get away with that kind of attitude if you're a proven winner.  If you're a guy still needing to prove himself, not so much.

I think you are totally right about Chud.  I wonder if Rivera would have made the changes he did if Chud hadn't gotten hired away.  I wonder if Rivera was happy to see him go even though he picked him for the job.

[TruthVsComfort]

That leads me back to a question I've asked before:

 

What's the bigger reason why the Panthers became a winning team this year?  Was it because of Ron Rivera's change in attitude or because Dave Gettleman helped build a better roster?

 

Naturally, both are valid.  I just wonder which one people see as more important.

 

Both were necessary.

 

We were still losing with the new talent during the first quarter of the season. We did not begin winning until Ron changed his philosophy on 4th downs, etc.

[Pejorative Miscreant]

Both were necessary.

We were still losing with the new talent during the first quarter of the season. We did not begin winning until Ron changed his philosophy on 4th downs, etc.

4th downs were the most visible but i really think it was the underlying attitude that went with it. Seems like everyone bought into it with the help of the vets on the team. Good news is we have a young coach and a young nucleus of leaders that can hopefully carry that forward.

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[rodeo]

Nothing says the status quo doesn't work like giving your 26th ranked OC an extension.

[bleys]

Nothing says the status quo doesn't work like giving your 26th ranked OC an extension.

 

boom.

[ladypanther]

That leads me back to a question I've asked before:

 

What's the bigger reason why the Panthers became a winning team this year?  Was it because of Ron Rivera's change in attitude or because Dave Gettleman helped build a better roster?

 

Naturally, both are valid.  I just wonder which one people see as more important.

 

Hard to say which was bigger....just give them both credit...a team effort....which I think they would both be happy with. Gman made some good cap and player moves.  RR made the moves on the field.  Win Win.

[Mr. Scot]

Nothing says the status quo doesn't work like giving your 26th ranked OC an extension.

 

So the quality of our offensive line and wide receivers had nothing to do with that ranking?