Kiper declares Manziel the best QB in the Draft

[CarolinaCoolin]

Who do you think he was playing with????? Four and Five star recruits????????

Every game he was stepping up in the pocket having to evade rushers

Competition has nothing to do with having good mechanics, good footwork, good accuracy and ball placement and arm strength

UCF the team that bridgewater had almost 70% completions and 350 yards bashed Baylor in a BCS bowl game this year

By the same token he isn't facing SEC caliber defenders week in week out like manziel did.

How many top ranked teams did bridgewater play against?

I think you are confusing this argument Because I'm arguing it's not fair to say manziel isn't good because bridgewater put up around the same numbers with less talent. Because manziel was facing much better talent on a consistent basis and that's something that can't be said for bridgewater

[ajax4132]

 

(" ESPN draft analyst Mel Kiper said Johnny Manziel is the consensus best QB in the draft.")

 

Mel Kiper lost all credibility with me after he rated Jimmy Clausen so highly.My guess is history is about to repeat in his rave about Manziel.                    

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You know whats crazy, on his big board Bridgewater and Bortles are ahead of Manziel.

 

Manziel is a money maker, they are trying to push the narrative as hard as they can 

 

Its Timmeh Teh all over again

[CarolinaCoolin]

You know whats crazy, on his big board Bridgewater and Bortles are ahead of Manziel.

Manziel is a money maker, they are trying to push the narrative as hard as they can

Its Timmeh Teh all over again

Except one can actually pass so it's nothing like Timmy t at all

[ajax4132]

By the same token he isn't facing SEC caliber defenders week in week out like manziel did.

How many top ranked teams did bridgewater play against?

I think you are confusing this argument Because I'm arguing it's not fair to say manziel isn't good because bridgewater put up around the same numbers with less talent. Because manziel was facing much better talent on a consistent basis and that's something that can't be said for bridgewater

Five words for you....

 

The Golden Calf of Bristol

 

There are myriad of top notch SEC qbs that have ended up being absolute poo at the NFL level.

 

There are a myriad of qbs who never played "SEC" competition who are at the top of the NFL

[ajax4132]

Except one can actually pass so it's nothing like Timmy t at all

Im not saying he can't be good, but he isn't good now

 

The hype is EXACTLY like Timmehs from a couple years ago

[CarolinaCoolin]

Two words for you....

The Golden Calf of Bristol

There are myriad of top notch SEC qbs that have ended up being absolute poo at the NFL level.

There are a myriad of qbs who never played "SEC" competition who are at the top of the NFL

You really going to say with a straight face The Golden Calf of Bristol and manziel are on the same level? If so than you have no clue about football. One kid can throw and run and have a decent arm to succeed at the next level. The other kid can't throw to save his life. Peyton manning was an sec qb. Cam was an sec qb. Stafford sec.

The point is bridgewater faced no bodies all year. Not one 25 ranked team

[ajax4132]

You really going to say with a straight face The Golden Calf of Bristol and manziel are on the same level? If so than you have no clue about football. One kid can throw and run and have a decent arm to succeed at the next level. The other kid can't throw to save his life. Peyton manning was an sec qb. Cam was an sec qb. Stafford sec.

The point is bridgewater faced no bodies all year. Not one 25 ranked team

I am talking about in terms of hype in proportion to talent. This is not Luck or Cam we are talking about.

 

The fact of the matter is Manziels NFL talent does not warrant the hype

 

See fuging Timmeh The Golden Calf of Bristol

 

UCF? Didn't this smash Baylor

 

fug outta here with that competition regurgitated bullshit

 

 

Not one legit NFL scout has view that as an issue

[CarolinaCoolin]

I am talking about in terms of hype in proportion to talent. This is not Luck or Cam we are talking about.

The fact of the matter is Manziels NFL talent does not warrant the hype

See fuging Timmeh The Golden Calf of Bristol

UCF? Didn't this smash Baylor

fug outta here with that competition regurgitated bullshit

Not one legit NFL scout has view that as an issue

The transitive property does not work for football buddy. Just because you beat one team and that team beat another means you can beat that team.

If you want to talk actual tangible things that pertain to football other than hype feel free to quote me. Until then keep your mouth shut.

Manziel is a good talent. Anyone with eyes in their head can see that.

[ajax4132]

The transitive property does not work for football buddy. Just because you beat one team and that team beat another means you can beat that team.

If you want to talk actual tangible things that pertain to football other than hype feel free to quote me. Until then keep your mouth shut.

Manziel is a good talent. Anyone with eyes in their head can see that.

Your the bringing talent garbage. fug out of here with that poo. 

 

Aaron Rodgers went to Cal

Romo to EIU

Brees to Purdue

Brady Michigan

Rothlisberger some small school in Ohio

 

Its does not matter dude, who ever fug told you that is kidding themselves. Keep in mind I probably played football as close to as many years as you are alive

 

 

He is good talent, he is not 1st round talent. End of discussion

[CarolinaCoolin]

Your the bringing talent garbage. fug out of here with that poo.

Aaron Rodgers went to Cal

Romo to EIU

Brees to Purdue

Brady Michigan

Rothlisberger some small school in Ohio

Its does not matter dude, who ever fug told you that is kidding themselves. Keep in mind I probably played football as close to as many years as you are alive

He is good talent, he is not 1st round talent. End of discussion

How many of those qbs you mentioned come out of AAC? Don't worry I'll wait

[ajax4132]

How many of those qbs you mentioned come out of AAC? Don't worry I'll wait

Miami of Ohio is from MAC

 

Are you this fuging retarded to think that the competition a qb played in has any indication on NFL success?

 

What the fug man, are you thinking correctly????

[Guest Dark Knight]

Manziel is gonna get RGIII'd

[ajax4132]

Manziel is gonna get RGIII'd

By the media for sure, they are hyping him up now but when he has his struggles they will break him down

[Tyler Callaway]

It is hard to tell between Manziel and Bridgewater, and Bortles is not too far behind. I think Manziel has a lot better arm than he is given credit for, his accuracy and footwork need a lot of improvement but I do not see how it is any worse than a lot of franchise QB's coming out. He honestly reminds me a lot of Cam when he was coming out college, outside of height and weight of course.