Eric Decker Going FA

[WOW!!]

Any DC who considers Decker the 4th receiving opttion to worry about on the Denver offense, then he's probably not long for that job.

Really over who exactly? ? Wes who missed 3 games but still got targeted just as much as Decker or DT the most talented and physical WR on the team?

He is the 3rd or 4th option on that team plain and simple.

[LinvilleGorge]

Really over who exactly? ? Wes who missed 3 games but still got targeted just as much as Decker or DT the most talented and physical WR on the team?

He is the 3rd or 4th option on that team plain and simple.

 

Denver WRs in terms of number of targets this year:

 

D. Thomas - 143

Decker - 137

Welker - 110

J. Thomas - 89

 

3rd or 4th option my ass.  Manning spreads the ball around very well, but Decker was only 6 targets away from being Mannings #1 target.

[WOW!!]

Denver WRs in terms of number of targets this year:

D. Thomas - 143

Decker - 137

Welker - 110

J. Thomas - 89

3rd or 4th option my ass. Manning spreads the ball around very well, but Decker was only 6 targets away from being Mannings #1 target.

Welker missed 3 to 4 games and DT was taking on the top Cb for every team. So good Decker got good numbers as a benefit. But again in reality many DC see him as the 4th person to worry about on that offense.

[TheRed]

Specifically which NFL defensive coordinators have told you he is the last person they worry about when game planning for the Broncos offense? I'm just curious.

[LinvilleGorge]

Welker missed 3 to 4 games and DT was taking on the top Cb for every team. So good Decker got good numbers as a benefit. But again in reality many DC see him as the 4th person to worry about on that offense.

 

If that's the way you want to see it, fine.  But, it pretty much confirms you don't know much about football.  Love the fact that you wanted to argue stats at first but when they didn't go your way, you fall back on the "Decker got good numbers as a benefit" line.

[WOW!!]

Specifically which NFL defensive coordinators have told you he is the last person they worry about when game planning for the Broncos offense? I'm just curious.

Ok less play the game.

Bigger threat DT or Decker??

Better slot threat Welker or Decker? ?

Better TE Jthomas or Decker? ?

So Decker is not better at their jobs then Welker and JT and he isn't a better outside WR then DT. So since he doesn't run the same routes as Welker or JT (who play 2 separate positions and provide different threats to a defense) and I know you're not saying he's better then DT. So wouldn't he be the 3rd or 4th thing to worry about??

Plus I haven't even mention the running game.

[LinvilleGorge]

Ok less play the game.

Bigger threat DT or Decker??

Better slot threat Welker or Decker? ?

Better TE Jthomas or Decker? ?

So Decker is not better at their jobs then Welker and JT and he isn't a better outside WR then DT. So since he doesn't run the same routes as Welker or JT (who play 2 separate positions and provide different threats to a defense) and I know you're not saying he's better then DT. So wouldn't he be the 3rd or 4th thing to worry about??

Plus I haven't even mention the running game.

 

I'm not sure if it's possible for you to get any dumber.  That post is one of the biggest failures of logic I've ever seen on a message board and that's impressive.

[WOW!!]

If that's the way you want to see it, fine. But, it pretty much confirms you don't know much about football. Love the fact that you wanted to argue stats at first but when they didn't go your way, you fall back on the "Decker got good numbers as a benefit" line.

No it means you don't know poo about football.

Your best outside weapon is DT. Welker is the best Slot WR in the game. Posing a different threat to the team and Thomas is a TE posing a different threat. So unless your saying Decker is better the DT. He is the 3rd or 4th option not even including the Running game. Also I didn't try make it a stats thing I said "Welker had almost as many targets and he missed 4 games". Which we' 're only talking a 26 target difference while Welker missed about 4 games. Also you neglected to point out Decker not doing much the 1st 5 weeks until Welker and Thomas started getting hurt. Post the numbers for the 1st 6weeks.

[TheRed]

Ok less play the game.

Bigger threat DT or Decker??

Better slot threat Welker or Decker? ?

Better TE Jthomas or Decker? ?

So Decker is not better at their jobs then Welker and JT and he isn't a better outside WR then DT. So since he doesn't run the same routes as Welker or JT (who play 2 separate positions and provide different threats to a defense) and I know you're not saying he's better then DT. So wouldn't he be the 3rd or 4th thing to worry about??

Plus I haven't even mention the running game.

Decker and D. Thomas have the same number of touchdowns the last two seasons, 24. While Thomas has 500 more yards in that time span, they are both undeniable threats in the passing game. I'm not even going to sit here and argue over who is better, both have only been in the league since 2010. You said yourself Welker, and Julius Thomas are used differently, and one plays a different position altogether, so what's your point?

You keep bouncing around from argument to argument, but what I've been saying all along is that Decker is a legitimate threat, and his production speaks to that. If you disagree, that's up to you, but please stop speaking like you know what's on the minds of other coaches in regards to his talents, or game planning for him.

[Zithers]

whenever i watch denver he looks soft as hell and he's always had butterfingers. wouldn't offer him #1 money.

[LinvilleGorge]

No it means you don't know poo about football.

Your best outside weapon is DT. Welker is the best Slot WR in the game. Posing a different threat to the team and Thomas is a TE posing a different threat. So unless your saying Decker is better the DT. He is the 3rd or 4th option not even including the Running game. Also I didn't try make it a stats thing I said "Welker had almost as many targets and he missed 4 games". Which we' 're only talking a 26 target difference while Welker missed about 4 games. Also you neglected to point out Decker not doing much the 1st 5 weeks until Welker and Thomas started getting hurt. Post the numbers for the 1st 6weeks.

 

You just don't understand football.  You're making that more and more obvious.  Just because a guy is your #1 TE for example doesn't mean he's automatically a higher option for your offense than your #2 outside WR.  It just doesn't work like that.  You're going to tailor your offense to get the ball to your best players, regardless of what position they play.

 

At first, you were arguing that Decker's numbers were a product of the weapons around him.  Now you're arguing that he didn't start putting up numbers until those other options starting going down.  Which is it?  You can't have it both ways.  You're just all over the place. 

[WOW!!]

I'm not sure if it's possible for you to get any dumber. That post is one of the biggest failures of logic I've ever seen on a message board and that's impressive.

And resulting to personal attacks over a dream scenario is what again? ?

[Evengelion]

Eric Decker is a good WR, I just don't know how good.  It's tough to place a value on him with him playing with Manning, Demaryius Thomas, Wes Welker, and Julius Thomas.  He's just one of many weapons for a very good QB.

 

One thing to consider though is that Gettleman said he wants touchdown scorers.  Eric Decker is an elite touchdown scorer at the WR position.  On his career, 15% of his completions go for TDs.  That's insane.  For reference, here's the numbers for a few other guys in that category:

 

Megatron:  11%

Andre Johnson:  6.5%

Demaryius Thomas:  12.5%

Julio Jones:  11.5%

AJ Green:  11%

Steve Smith:  8%

Larry Fitzgerald:  10%

 

And before you say that 15% figure for Decker is a product of Peyton Manning, he was scoring TDs at an 18% clip prior to the Broncos signing Manning.  Dude just has a nose for the endzone.  He's at 14% with Manning. 

Yep, this proves it. Eric Decker is better than all those guys. The math proves it, right! Right!

[Evengelion]

The entire Broncos team disappeared last night.

If he could be signed to a reasonable contract, he could definitely help our offense.

D.Thomas had 13 catches for over 120 yards. He was balling from the start.