PJ or Rodney ?

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

Exactly but you can't sit here and ignore the fact his coaches didn't trust him or he wasn't ready to contribute his freshman year or both. And the fact Hood was.

 

That's completely inaccurate... and something that was made up by moronic NCSU fans.

 

Everyone that know's anything about Carolina basketball know's that Roy has always preferred a traditional PG-SG-SF-PF-C line up and didn't adjust his thinking until last year when he was forced to play a guard heavy lineup with JMM at the five and Reggie Fricken Bullock at the four.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

And my boy Gerald had never been sent down to the D-league.

 

Doesn't mean that at one point that those players were considered NBA caliber players based on their college production... something that you are adamantly denying; which turns out to be quite accurate.

[RoaringRiot]

D-League teams would beat any college team in a best of three series.  

[Guest Dark Knight]

And my boy Gerald had never been sent down to the D-league.

He plays for the LOLcats, don't act like he contributes to a real NBA team.

Once the team is ready to start winning he will be replaced.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

And i've seen the same ability in Hood.

And while PJ's big frame does help him over the avg. Nba SG.

Hoods length gives him the same advantage. You're making a lot of opinions on PJ that can be said about Hood as well.

 

I've not seen Hood once try to take over a game... it might not help that he has Parker (who is the go to guy) on his team but let's not be naive and actually believe that Hood would be averaging 17 points per game if Parker wasn't taking a lot of focus off of him. 

 

Last year Carolina had no one to take the focus off of Hairston, Hairston was to UNC what Parker is to Duke and he played really well.

 

I see you mentioning stats quite a bit and I'd like to inform you that stats aren't even half of the equation. I used to record stats for a college football team and the only reason that they were even required is because the conference likes to use them when deciding all-conference teams.

 

For instance: Player A shoots: 51%... Player B: shoots 49%... what you don't know is that Player B averages 4 more shots per game than Player B because he is the go-to-guy giving him the lower number due to more shots taken .

 

For Example: Marco Belinelli shoots 50% and Arron Afflalo shoots 47%... However, Afflalo averages five more shots per game than Belinelli increasing the likelihood that his shooting percentage will be lower due to the amount of shots taken creating more opportunities to miss. Would you want Belinelli over Afflalo? I think not.

[WOW!!]

Not too many freshmen go to Chapel Hill and are expected to be key contributors. I'm sure it's a completely different story for a star recruit at Mississippi State. It has nothing to do with trust from the coaches. It has everything to do with talent on the teams. The Heels were one Kendall Marshall injury away from being in the Final Four when PJ was a freshman.

The point you're trying to make is way off.....

Dexter Strickland was starting ahead of him really?? The whole freshman contributing thing is a myth as well. It may have been true under Dean. But Roy has no problem playing Freshman big minutes if he trust them. Barnes, Hansbro, Henson, Lawson, Marvin Williams and others were all given playtime in their freshman year.

Again Dexter Strickland shouldn't be the reason PJ didn't see a lot of PT. It was PJ plain and simple or Roy forgot how coach?? Which path are you taking??

[WOW!!]

I've not seen Hood once try to take over a game... it might not help that he has Parker (who is the go to guy) on his team but let's not be naive and actually believe that Hood would be averaging 17 points per game if Parker wasn't taking a lot of focus off of him.

Last year Carolina had no one to take the focus off of Hairston, Hairston was to UNC what Parker is to Duke and he played really well.

I see you mentioning stats quite a bit and I'd like to inform you that stats aren't even half of the equation. I used to record stats for a college football team and the only reason that they were even required is because the conference likes to use them when deciding all-conference teams.

For instance: Player A shoots: 51%... Player B: shoots 49%... what you don't know is that Player B averages 4 more shots per game than Player B because he is the go-to-guy giving him the lower number due to more shots taken .

For Example: Marco Belinelli shoots 50% and Arron Afflalo shoots 47%... However, Afflalo averages five more shots per game than Belinelli increasing the likelihood that his shooting percentage will be lower due to the amount of shots taken creating more opportunities to miss. Would you want Belinelli over Afflalo? I think not.

Then you're fuging blind. He took over at least 3 games when Parker was going thru a slump. Then he shut down the top scorer on Pitt Mon. Hood has been the most consistent player on Duke this year.

[RoaringRiot]

Dexter Strickland was starting ahead of him really?? The whole freshman contributing thing is a myth as well. It may have been true under Dean. But Roy has no problem playing Freshman big minutes if he trust them. Barnes, Hansbro, Henson, Lawson, Marvin Williams and others were all given playtime in their freshman year.

Again Dexter Strickland shouldn't be the reason PJ didn't see a lot of PT. It was PJ plain and simple or Roy forgot how coach?? Which path are you taking??

 

 

Great...you named 5 freshmen who were contributors (one of which is not correct).  Like I said..."not many are expected to contribute".  It's not a myth.  Strickland had been starting for three years (yes he started as a Freshmen on a terrible team), Roy wasn't going to give his starting spot to PJ.  Again....you obviously have an agenda and your point is well below weak at this point.  Especially considering it has no relevance in determining who is the better player at this point and which has the highest ceiling for the NBA. 

[bigcatdaddy]

Doesn't mean that at one point that those players were considered NBA caliber players based on their college production... something that you are adamantly denying; which turns out to be quite accurate.

Why don't you tell us how many of those players in the D league that you named were taken in the 1st round?

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

Dexter Strickland was starting ahead of him really?? The whole freshman contributing thing is a myth as well. It may have been true under Dean. But Roy has no problem playing Freshman big minutes if he trust them. Barnes, Hansbro, Henson, Lawson, Marvin Williams and others were all given playtime in their freshman year.

Again Dexter Strickland shouldn't be the reason PJ didn't see a lot of PT. It was PJ plain and simple or Roy forgot how coach?? Which path are you taking??

 

Yeah... ask Isaiah Hicks (who was a McDonald's All-American and ranked as the 10th best player in the country) who is averaging around 8 minutes per game if that's a myth... Let's also not forget that Meeks wouldn't be starting if it wasn't for James' injury and Britt has already been relegated to clean up duty due to McDonald coming back.

 

As for the players you mentioned.

 

Barnes was the number one recruit in the country... that would be like Duke not starting Parker for Sheed.

 

Henson only averaged 15 minutes per game his freshmen year... (not even half the game)

 

Lawson was competing with Quentin Thomas and Bobby Frasor for the starting gig his freshman year... obviously it was his job to lose (simile to Marcus Paige's scenario)

 

Tyler Hansbrough was competing with Reyshawn Terry for playing time his freshman year... obviously Hansbrough was going to get a bunch of minutes.

 

Marvin Williams is the only player that actually fits the bill of your description... he simply beat out his competition (which was decent) and in turn he got drafted 2nd overall.

 

As far as Roy forgetting how to coach.. I don't think he is a bad coach but he's average in my opinion. His recruiting (in the past) is what has made him a better coach than he actually is.

 

If you're going to try and skew stats and other info, please make it less obvious.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

Dexter Strickland was starting ahead of him really?? The whole freshman contributing thing is a myth as well. It may have been true under Dean. But Roy has no problem playing Freshman big minutes if he trust them. Barnes, Hansbro, Henson, Lawson, Marvin Williams and others were all given playtime in their freshman year.

Again Dexter Strickland shouldn't be the reason PJ didn't see a lot of PT. It was PJ plain and simple or Roy forgot how coach?? Which path are you taking??

 

Yeah... ask Isaiah Hicks (who was a McDonald's All-American and ranked as the 10th best player in the country) who is averaging around 8 minutes per game if that's a myth... Let's also not forget that Meeks wouldn't be starting if it wasn't for James' injury and Britt has already been relegated to clean up duty due to McDonald coming back.

 

As for the players you mentioned.

 

Barnes was the number one recruit in the country... that would be like Duke not starting Parker for Sheed.

 

Henson only averaged 15 minutes per game his freshmen year... (not even half the game)

 

Lawson was competing with Quentin Thomas and Bobby Frasor for the starting gig his freshman year... obviously it was his job to lose (simile to Marcus Paige's scenario)

 

Tyler Hansbrough was competing with Reyshawn Terry for playing time his freshman year... obviously Hansbrough was going to get a bunch of minutes.

 

Marvin Williams is the only player that actually fits the bill of your description... he simply beat out his competition (which was decent) and in turn he got drafted 2nd overall.

 

As far as Roy forgetting how to coach.. I don't think he is a bad coach but he's average in my opinion. His recruiting (in the past) is what has made him a better coach than he actually is.

 

If you're going to try and skew stats and other info, please make it less obvious.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

Why don't you tell us how many of those players in the D league that you named were taken in the 1st round?

 

What does getting drafted in the first round have to do with being a good basketball player... 

 

Hornets fans should know that one-time Hornet point guard David Wesley went undrafted but I guess since he went undrafted and Jimmer Fredette was drafted in the top 10 we already know who is better.

 

You're also severely underrating the notion that Hairston is going up against much more physical players. Hood is playing against freshmen and sophomores in college who might not even be done growing or physically maturing as where Hairston is going up (and dominating) full grown men.

[RoaringRiot]

Marvin Williams is the only player that actually fits the bill of your description... he simply beat out his competition (which was decent) and in turn he got drafted 2nd overall.

 

 

 

and Marvin Williams wasn't event a starter that year.  

[WOW!!]

Great...you named 5 freshmen who were contributors (one of which is not correct). Like I said..."not many are expected to contribute". It's not a myth. Strickland had been starting for three years (yes he started as a Freshmen on a terrible team), Roy wasn't going to give his starting spot to PJ. Again....you obviously have an agenda and your point is well below weak at this point. Especially considering it has no relevance in determining who is the better player at this point and which has the highest ceiling for the NBA.

No you have a agenda. I'm the one saying Hood and PJ would be great fit and have a lot of potential. You Tarheel faith are making every excuse for PJ'S in ability to crack the Tar heel starting line-up until half way thru his 2nd year. And taking every opportunity to downgrade Hood.

Badly I must say.

Like I said earlier both have a lot of potential as Nba 2 guards and both would be a instant upgrade for this team. I'm waiting until the draft process plays out before I figure who is better for the Hornets.

But I see a few people with light blue blinders on have already made up their mind before the process has even started.

Ag