That moment when you realize SIONE FUA may get a ring before Cam

[pamlicopanther]

Fua?

[Jackofalltrades]

Couldn't care less, just glad he's not a Panther.

[Guest Dark Knight]

E

[Lemory]

Didn't Blackburn have a huge pick in that game too?

 

Yea i think like 50 yds down field against Gronk.

[Gabeking]

Mediocre players like John Elway have multiple rings while all time greats like Dan Marino are stuck with none.

Happens all the time.

Dumbass

[Mr. Scot]

E

 

That is the worst eye chart I have ever seen :unsure:

[Guest Dark Knight]

Mediocre players do get rings, generally as backups.

You're gonna have to convince me that John Elway belongs on that list, though.

.

Easy enough.

Career Season Avg:

57% Cmp, 3217 Yd, 18 TD, 14 Int, 79.9 Rtg

4.4 ypc, 213 Yd, 2 TD

Career Playoff Avg (per game):

54.5% Cmp, 1.2 TD, 1.0 Int, 79.7 Rtg

--did not throw for 22 TD until his 11th season

--QBs have thrown for 28+ TD over 100 times, Elway is not on that list

--hit 60% completion in only 3 of 16 seasons

--in '93 he led the league in completions (438) & yards (4,030). Other than that, he never led the league in any major passing category (completions, yards, TD, passer rating)

--he is 44th all-time on the passer rating list (79.9), which is one spot ahead of his '83 classmate Tony Eason (79.7)

--owns 3 of the worst QB performances in Super Bowl history, debatable if he ever wins any without T Davis & Shanahan

John Elway is generally presented as a top 5 all-time QB by fans and the media. If that's the case then Cam Newton is already the most underrated football player of all-time.

Elway's top 3 years ('93 yr 11, '96 yr 14, '97 yr 15)

vs

Newton's first 3 years

John Elway: 11,613 Yd, 83 TD, 50 turnovers

Cam Newton: 13,364 Yd, 92 TD, 48 turnovers

Elway:: 60% Cmp, 10,993 Yd, 78 TD, 35 Int, 88.7 Rtg

Newton: 60% Cmp, 11,299 Yd, 64 TD, 42 Int, 86.4 Rtg

Elway:: 4.3 ypc, 620 Yd, 5 TD, 25 Fmb (15 lost)

Newton: 5.6 ypc, 2,032 Yd, 28 TD, 18 Fmb (6 lost)

[R0CKnR0LLA]

he'll be selling that thing to a pawn shop in like 3 years anyway

[Guest Dark Knight]

Dumbass

Career Per Season Avg TD/turnover

A- 34 TD, 16 t/o

B- 31 TD, 14 t/o

C- 31 TD, 16 t/o

D- 31 TD, 17 t/o

E- 20 TD, 16 t/o

One of them does not belong, one of them is not the same, one of them is not like the rest.

A- Peyton Manning

B- Tom Brady

C- Cam Newton

D- Drew Brees

E- John Elway

[Ken]

I agree that John Elway is a bit overrated but he's still a HOF QB.

[Guest Dark Knight]

Per 16 Start Avg:

John Elway: 57% Cmp 3534 Yd 21 TD 16 Int

B Johnson: 62% Cmp 3719 Yd 21 TD 15 Int

Super Bowl Avg:

John Elway: 50% Cmp, 282 Yd, 0.6 TD, 1.6 Int

B Johnson: 53% Cmp, 215 Yd, 2 TD, 1 Int

[Gabeking]

Per 16 Start Avg:

John Elway: 57% Cmp 3534 Yd 21 TD 16 Int

B Johnson: 62% Cmp 3719 Yd 21 TD 15 Int

Super Bowl Avg:

John Elway: 50% Cmp, 282 Yd, 0.6 TD, 1.6 Int

B Johnson: 53% Cmp, 215 Yd, 2 TD, 1 Int

Ok man hide behind those precious numbers

[Guest Dark Knight]

Ok man hide behind those precious numbers

57% Completion, 18 TD, 14 Int

That is mediocre at best. And that's what he averaged per season. Keep drinking the Kool-Aid, they'll do the same thing with Andrew Luck in 20 years.

[Peppers90 NC]

Mediocre players like John Elway have multiple rings while all time greats like Dan Marino are stuck with none.

Happens all the time.

wait what?  sarcasm doesnt always work ya know