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Gettlemen Draft philosophy

IamSoClutch

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philp Apprentice

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i hope everyone's prepared for this to be one of our least sexy drafts ever... but also one of the most effective.

 

i'm ready for that.  i mean last year was very appealing at first.  3 fat dudes, a linebacker, and a running back.  

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rayzor Grand Master

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i'm going to start locking threads that offer only a title and a link to something.

 

quit being so lazy and either post an excerpt and/or some kind of thoughts/summary.

 

if you have the ability to start a thread or post a link or post in other threads, you're more than able to do more than just post some link to something.

 

 

 

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i'm going to start locking threads that offer only a title and a link to something.

 

quit being so lazy and either post an excerpt and/or some kind of thoughts/summary.

 

if you have the ability to start a thread or post a link or post in other threads, you're more than able to do more than just post some link to something.

 

Just FYI Rayzor, when I try to post quoted text from certain sites, I get a "page cannot be displayed" or "you aren't allowed to post" alert.  It's been happening recently but I don't know if anyone else is having this issue.  I remember someone posting a thread about the problem not too long ago.  

 

I just tried to quote the article 3 times and that happened each time.  

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Just FYI Rayzor, when I try to post quoted text from certain sites, I get a "page cannot be displayed" or "you aren't allowed to post" alert.  It's been happening recently but I don't know if anyone else is having this issue.  I remember someone posting a thread about the problem not too long ago.  

 

I just tried to quote the article 3 times and that happened each time.  

 

I'll try...

 

Q. When you come to something like the Senior Bowl where guys are playing with new teams and some of them out of position, what are you looking for?

A. If it’s a lower-level guy, you look to see if he steps up. When I was with Denver, John Mobley was a linebacker out of Kutztown (Pa.). When you’re a road (scout) and you evaluate a I-AA or Division II kid on down, what you want to do is, first of all, he has to dominate that level. Second of all, you have to close your eyes, and for Kutztown, the closest school is Penn State, so I’m watching the film on John and asking myself, can he start at Penn State?

John was a man among boys, so check that box. Yes I could picture him starting at Penn State. Then he got invited to the Blue-Gray game and played well, and then he got invited to the Senior Bowl and he stepped it up again. Now we’re in draft meetings and you’ve just watched that Senior Bowl film, and you don’t have to guess. You’re looking for a guy to step up, a guy from a (Mid-American) school, what he’s going to do against the SEC schools? That’s what you’re looking for.

How do they practice? How do they handle the all-star game hoopla? You can tell on the practice field. And then of course, are they going to be able to become pros? That’s not just physically, that’s about becoming a professional. Somewhere like where Luke (Kuechly) is. He’s in his second year, and it’s like he’s a 10-year vet.

 

Q. What are your draft priorities?

A. The purpose until March 11 (and the start of free agency), the whole purpose of this is to put yourself into a position so that when the draft comes, you can take the best player. I can’t say it enough. We had the perfect storm this year. The best player on our draft board at the time we drafted in the first two rounds was there.

I’ve talked about it with guys around the league, and guys will open up a little bit. There was one team in the top five that it was going to be either Star or the guy they took. But they ended up taking their guy. And then he’s dropping and dropping. And the Jets are in front of us, and I said there’s no doubt they’re taking Sheldon Richardson. Even if you don’t have the inside information, knowing Rex (Ryan), he was perfect. He was versatile, he can do a million different things with him, and that’s what Rex does. And it was a great pick for them.

And it took us 40 seconds. That’s my philosophy. And that’s what we did up in New York, and that’s what we’re going to do here.

If it doesn’t happen, it doesn’t happen. But this next time you want to put yourself in the position to take the best player on the board. Because when you get into trouble is when you reach for need. That’s when you get into trouble.

 

Q. What’s your philosophy on potential No. 1 receivers? They can be found in the draft or free agency, so what do you tend to lean toward?

A. The draft history will tell you that it’s a tough position to make an immediate impact. In general, the 20-hour rule has really affected the player that we get. Back in the day, and I know you young guys are tired of hearing that, but when there basically were no rules, these kids for the most part came fundamentally sound. And that’s not happening now.

There was a wide receiver that got taken in the first round a few years back, he ran three routes in college. And didn’t adjust to coverage. He ran to three spots. So just think about what you have to teach that guy. So that’s kind of the thing that, depending upon where he went, he was in the spread offense. Another receiver who was taken in the first round that year, a different college, spread offense, he ran the whole route tree. It depends upon what program the kid came out of.

I don’t know if wide receiver has had a tougher time, but history will tell you the adjustment isn’t easy. (Houston’s DeAndre) Hopkins and (San Diego’s) Keenan Allen had quality rookie years. You have to go through the full process, and part of that full process is spending time with these kids, finding out what they know, what they don’t know. I thought last year that our coaching and scouting staff did a great job post-combine in that part of the process.

And as you know, you’re allowed to bring 30 kids in. You’re going to have 3-4 slots open. If there’s a late guy … they’ll spend a day with us and they’ll be on the board, they’ll spend time with Ron (Rivera) and coaches.

Because the way the league is, the quicker you get your young kids to play, the better you’re going to be. So we’ve got to figure out how quickly this guy’s going to be able to play.

 

Q. With the failures at the 1 in the San Francisco game, I know you’re a guy who loves his hog mollies. Obviously it’s bothersome what happened at the 1, but is it something that creates an impetus to focus in on the line in this year’s draft?

A. Let me say this, you can’t. … The first goal is to win your division. But really and truly the long view is to design your team to beat the best team you’re going to play. You understand? That’s the goal.

 

Q. You guys have Seattle next year ...

A. (Laughs) Yes we do.

 

 

Quick tip from an old geek: If you have trouble with the formatting of something, "wash it" through a basic text editor like Notepad.  Cut and paste it into Notepad, then into something like Word or Excel (depending on what you're working on) or back into the forum.  Can't help you if you're posting from a phone of course, but it's a fix for your PC.

 

Hope that helps :)

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Mr. Scot Grand Master

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On to the topic...

 

When I read or listened to interviews with Marty Hurney, that's exactly what it felt like I was doing. 

 

Duh, right?  Except it's different with Gettleman.

 

When I read or listen to the stuff Dave Gettleman says I feel like I'm in a classroom, and there's a lot to learn. 

 

Look at the first answer where he talks about John Mobley (a guy I remember watching) and you can tell Gettleman knows what it means to scout a football player.

 

I am so glad we finally have a 'football guy' in charge.

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