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Your reaction if we go DBs in the first couple rounds?


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We're really depleted in the CB department with probably 1 or 2 coming back next year. We need to load up somehow.

 

This^^^^

 

Our defensive backfield was put together with cast offs on one year deals.  Several of those guys are likely gone.

 

DB is a huge need on this team....as is OL and WR.

 

Will be interested to see which Gettlemen chooses to address (either short-term or long-term) in FA and which he chooses to addres in the draft.

 

It would almost be worth double dipping on DB in the draft just to watch The Huddle implode.....it is very entertaining.

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I will say this again, for the 100th time, Our zone defense is not predicated on top end lock down type corners. Darell Revis played in a zone scheme this year and looked out of place and had a down year. Going after a CB in the first is a complete and utter waste of a draft pick when we couldn't manage to score more than 10 points in the post season and you can get an equally valuable type corner for our scheme in the 3rd or even maybe 4th round. If we continue to never give Cam protection or weapons then we are setting him up for failure.
I agree offense needs to be the focus but you're freaking stupid if you don't think a top college CB would be an upgrade over melvin white or josh thomas. I mean give me a break and quit trying to be a know-it-all Sent from my SCH-I545 using CarolinaHuddle mobile app
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Is it possible that RR/DG decide to make the defense impenetrable by getting a couple studs in the defensive backfield instead of going WR/OT like the Huddle wants? 

 

If they do, will you be all "In DG we trust" or will you be venting here?

I would be rather furious.

 

 

PapaGetts has preached the Hog Mollies line over and over. To turn his back on that and grab skill positions in 2 of the first 3 picks would be foolish.

 

Then again, I'm the guy who ranted about Luke being a wasted pick. (I HAD GOOD REASONS).

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This team needs to draft Wr's and pass catchers. Non of this stuff about how the Panther's haven't been good at drafting WR's or any of that other BS. WR's can be effective in their first year, you just have to get the scouting right. This team needs youth at WR, needs players on offense that are cheap and can grow around and with Cam. The offense needs to be fixed. 

 

 

The offense is the reason the team didn't go further, DG and RR proved they could build a defense with cast off's in the secondary and will need to do so again. I'm tired of this team ignoring offense. The team finally has a franchise caliber QB and they have given him virtually no help in 3 seasons, it's about damn time he got some help. 

 

The defense is going to loose a step and two CB's for a team running mostly a zone scheme isn't going to help a whole lot. 

 

Draft should look like this...

 

Offense 1-7. WR, WR, TE, OL, OL, RB/FB, WR.  That's how little the Panther's have at offensive skill positions. 

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I like the idea of double dipping, just not THIS year on DB's... If anything double dip on wide receiver if we can't get Nicks.

 

Perfect scenario:

 

Get Nicks cheap. Draft wide receiver in round 1. Corner and Safety in round 2 and 3, then find a tackle that could compete with Bell.

 

Get Gross's replacement in round 1 of 2015 draft.

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An utter waste? You do realize there are corners that can thrive in a zone scheme and be elite, yes? Clearly, you tend to believe otherwise. Rhodes was on our draft board for a reason despite being tall and physical. Drafting a corner like Fuller or Watkins in the second round is ideal. I don't care what your stance is on it but a patchwork secondary won't get us far in the playoffs. So please, say it a 100 more times. It won't change a damn thing. The potentially good/great corners go in the first two rounds. You're not gonna find a player like Dennard (who played great in zone when asked to) in the 4th round. It's the same argument we've used for a receiver.

 

Yes, but the position value does not warrant a first round pick, period.  If you have a need at Fullback, or Kicker, you don't go crazy and take one in the first round just to get one.  Gettleman knows what he's doing, and I can tell you with little doubt in my mind that we will not be drafting a DB in the first round.  We will pick one in the draft, just not in the first round.

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CBs are so hit or miss. Look at Milliner with the Jets. High draft pick but benched on multiple occasions. And of course, I doubt Cam and his agent would go for that. Cam's voice is a little bigger going into his 4th year having accomplished so much for the first 3 years. Did you know RG3 was the one who chose Jordan Reed in last year's draft. Reed turned out to be a beast.

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My reaction would be the same as last year. If that is what DG feels is appropriate then fine by me. I would then continue to stress that the defense must carry this team as far as we can go.

 

Coming into this year I expected our offense to put up about 17 in order to win most games because our defense should be expected to hold most teams under that.

 

If we go DBs in the first two picks, I would then expect our defense to hold most teams to under 10 points and for our offense to score about 13 points. Of course this is with the assumption we don't get any free agents on offense and don't give Cam a contract that sucks up all of our financial resources.

 

Where ever we spend our resources that is where our focus for production should be. That is where our high expectations should be. That is where our primary reason for winning should come from game in and game out.

 

I could never understand why we had folks looking at the offense/Cam in this past off season as if they were going to be the Unit to carry this team. No way. Not with the personnel we had. I stated then, the Carolina Panther will only go to the playoffs if the defense ends up a top 5 unit and the offense stays out of its way by not putting them in bad spots.

 

If we go defense, defense again this year I expect the NFL's best defense and an offense that should continue to be among the league's worst. And no one should even begin to blame the offense if we put more than 20 points (more like 13) and lose. 

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How many wrs have we ever drafted that were good right off the bat. I think we will pick up a few guys in FA and supplement with the draft. Some.positions like RB or LB you can start right away. Others you cant.If we want a guy to groom then draft one. If we want someone to start we need a vet. So my reaction would be thats great for 2 years from now but little help right away.

When have we spent a 1st rd pick on a WR? We have seen several young wideouts come in year 1 and contribute, we just need to scout well

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We tried that in Butler, Norman, etc.  How is that working out for us?

neither of those guys fit the description i just described.............we run a zone scheme mostly which requires knowledge and tackling skills.........norman doesn't have the knowledge and i don't know what bulter's deal was,neither were over 6ft 

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I will say this again, for the 100th time, Our zone defense is not predicated on top end lock down type corners.  Darell Revis played in a zone scheme this year and looked out of place and had a down year.  Going after a CB in the first is a complete and utter waste of a draft pick when we couldn't manage to score more than 10 points in the post season and you can get an equally valuable type corner for our scheme in the 3rd or even maybe 4th round.  If we continue to never give Cam protection or weapons then we are setting him up for failure.

Let me say again that you aren't paying attention  if you think we run zone all of the time.  We frequently put a strong safety in the box meaning that we can only have 1 safety deep unless the corners are playing cover 3 and we don't do that often.  We may play zone under with the linebackers but we play a good amount of man coverage on the outside.  That means that at least 1 receiver if not 2 depending on how many they send out in the pattern are in single man coverage with no help over the top.  We need at least lock down corner if not two.  That way you have more flexibility to be able to stop teams like the 49ers who you have to load the box to stop them.

 

So yes we do need a good cover corner or two.  What you advocate is what we had this year and I don't think it worked out all that well.

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