Greatest Video Game Franchises

[carpanfan96]

You can post links, write as much as you want and come up with a million reasons to hate it. The fact remains it's one of the greatest FPS multiplayer experiences of all time. It sat on the MLG circuit for 5 years and was beloved by millions. I'm not even trying to be a fan boy here because I personally feel the Halo franchise multiplayer wise died after Halo 2. H1 & H2 were incredible games. As a competitive gamer (the old school Halo pros agree as well) I felt like they tried to do too much to improve upon an already exemplary franchise. Trying to balance weapons, increasing map size, adding in jets packs(etc.) and overall make the game easier for people. They wanted to even the playing field so the gap between competitive and casual could be bridged. It's a big reason the Halo franchise is dead in the competitive community today. DICE took a similar approach with BF4(it's also currently unplayable due to bugs). BC2 & BF3 were excellent games. Now BF4 feels again like they've bridged the gap by balancing guns, increasing map size etc. Doing too much is what is ruining these franchises.

 

Weapons are supposed to be balanced and if you build your maps around power weapons, you need the power weapons balanced as well. Screw the increased map size and jet packs stuff, but the weapons needed to be balanced. In the first Halo game you started out with the best gun, human pistol... it was a straight up pure FPS MP game because of that fact. 

 

CS is balanced in such a way that all the weapons and maps are evenly balanced and winning is based on skill. 

 

 

The fact that MLG used it means nothing, hell they use COD and it hasn't been worth a damn since COD4. It's been garbage for seven years and each new release is being used still. The fact that they use Xbox one with controllers and not PC's with M/K is laughable as well. 

 

MLG pro circuit is a joke when it comes to FPS competition because of those two things. They got it partly right with Dota and Starcraft though.... but Controllers and fps....lol

 

 

 

[Chimera]

the first halo was fun, revolutionary.

every halo after that has just been a cheap rip off of the first one.

I thought it was the opposite: they strayed too far from what made CE fun.

The whole reason I like H3 MP more is because of the Forge. I balanced out most of the maps in terms of "power weapons." I mean seriously, why would you even need a plasma rifle on Valhalla? On certain maps, I had versions were all the powerful weapons were in one spot - it kinda looked like the first few minutes of the hunger games.

The power ups (bubble shields, etc) were absolutely ghey, so I mostly left them out.

But when H3 came out, I was at the beginning of a 15.5 month tour in Iraq, so I played mostly LAN games. By the time I played it online, only the super nerd types were still playing.

[Porn Shop Clerk]

and less and less content with each "sequel"

[CarolinaCoolin]

Weapons are supposed to be balanced and if you build your maps around power weapons, you need the power weapons balanced as well. Screw the increased map size and jet packs stuff, but the weapons needed to be balanced. In the first Halo game you started out with the best gun, human pistol... it was a straight up pure FPS MP game because of that fact.

In MLG settings you started out with the BR which was the h2 equivalent of the ce pistol. So that point is moot. Further adding to the conclusion you were a casual player and didn't even experience the game like me and dex did because of that fact.

[carpanfan96]

In MLG settings you started out with the BR which was the h2 equivalent of the ce pistol. So that point is moot. Further adding to the conclusion you were a casual player and didn't even experience the game like me and dex did because of that fact.

I've played the game with a ton of different settings including MLG settings and I've seen it played on a ton of others. Despite the fact the I was just making a comparison, but the BR isn't the best weapon in Halo 2. That was the plasma pistol. So it's not the equivalent of the human pistol in CE.

However you and dex seem to ignore the fact the whole game was shitty and unbalanced.

The only way it should have been used in any competition would be to eliminate vehicles, the rl, power weapons, plasma pistol, and sword from the game all together on top of removing all the animation glitches.

Now If I remember correctly MLG settings still had all the power weapons, animation glitches, rl and vehicles still available meaning it was still wildly unbalanced.

Halo 2 was poo and it's own developers say as much even going as far to call the multiplayer unplayable.

[Porn Shop Clerk]

you have to be wrong because they got trophies for playing

[CarolinaCoolin]

I've played the game with a ton of different settings including MLG settings and I've seen it played on a ton of others. Despite the fact the I was just making a comparison, but the BR isn't the best weapon in Halo 2. That was the plasma pistol. So it's not the equivalent of the human pistol in CE.

However you and dex seem to ignore the fact the whole game was shitty and unbalanced.

The only way it should have been used in any competition would be to eliminate vehicles, the rl, power weapons, plasma pistol, and sword from the game all together on top of removing all the animation glitches.

Now If I remember correctly MLG settings still had all the power weapons, animation glitches, rl and vehicles still available meaning it was still wildly unbalanced.

Halo 2 was poo and it's own developers say as much even going as far to call the multiplayer unplayable.

lol you have no clue about MLG from what you just described. And I could 4 shot you dead before you'd kill me with the plasma pistol. From what you are saying I can tell you weren't that good at the game at all and didn't play much

[carpanfan96]

lol you have no clue about MLG from what you just described. And I could 4 shot you dead before you'd kill me with the plasma pistol. From what you are saying I can tell you weren't that good at the game at all and didn't play much

 

I know most didn't mess around with the PP because it rightfully sucked by itself, but if you used it with the BR, it was an easy two shot kill. 

You should know about the pp double shot kill, right? One bolt, plus headshot with the Br or Mag= death.

 

Also with the BR, If your that good, it shouldn't take all 4 shots at all... You could easily pull off two double shots or the BR instant kill. 

 

As for no clue about MLG, Your telling me that the settings removed the vehicles from the game, as well as the all the power weapons and Rocket launcher??? So the only weapons you could use were the BR and the sniper rifle..........Oh, wait... human weapons were available...so the Rocket launcher and vehicles were still there, ..Well that means the game was still unbalanced as well as a glitch fest.  As well as the fact that later on MLG messed up the respawn system even more by messing with the settings. lmao 

 

 

My point was the fact that MLG picked up the game means nothing as to it's quality as a game, I mean heck they use COD: Ghost with controllers over TF2 or counter strike in the pro circuit and that's just laughably stupid. 

 

My point was that no matter what settings you change, Halo 2 is still a glitchy, unbalanced game. It had poor map design on top of poor weapon spawning on top of gun and map glitches on top of OP RL/vehicle combo's on top of a poor matchmaking system.  That sounds like a pretty bad game. A quality game doesn't get slammed in the press about it's poor balancing or get slammed by its creators and called unplayable. 

 

I mean you had CS beta, COD 1, HL......ext.....ext...ext...Of course they were all on PC and not on MS xbox. I understand Microsoft threw there money around to get it in MLG and still to this day have a spot reserved for Halo games, right now that spots being used by COD Ghost. MS got Halo 2 into MLG and still sponsors and throws money at MLG to hold that spot for Halo games.

 

 

Like I mentioned earlier in this thread, I did in fact play the heck out of Halo 2 because of a roommate. I put in over 200+ hours in Halo 2, which is a lot for me considering it's a controller FPS and I didn't like it at all. I preferred COD 1, Counter-Strike, Half Life 2/Deathmatch and Cod 2 all over Halo 2. That's the bigger FPS games that came out in 2003-2005 if you didn't know. They were all vastly superior to Halo 2 in every way. 

[CarolinaCoolin]

I know most didn't mess around with the PP because it rightfully sucked by itself, but if you used it with the BR, it was an easy two shot kill.

You should know about the pp double shot kill, right? One bolt, plus headshot with the Br or Mag= death.

Also with the BR, If your that good, it shouldn't take all 4 shots at all... You could easily pull off two double shots or the BR instant kill.

As for no clue about MLG, Your telling me that the settings removed the vehicles from the game, as well as the all the power weapons and Rocket launcher??? So the only weapons you could use were the BR and the sniper rifle..........Oh, wait... human weapons were available...so the Rocket launcher and vehicles were still there, ..Well that means the game was still unbalanced as well as a glitch fest. As well as the fact that later on MLG messed up the respawn system even more by messing with the settings. lmao

My point was the fact that MLG picked up the game means nothing as to it's quality as a game, I mean heck they use COD: Ghost with controllers over TF2 or counter strike in the pro circuit and that's just laughably stupid.

My point was that no matter what settings you change, Halo 2 is still a glitchy, unbalanced game. It had poor map design on top of poor weapon spawning on top of gun and map glitches on top of OP RL/vehicle combo's on top of a poor matchmaking system. That sounds like a pretty bad game. A quality game doesn't get slammed in the press about it's poor balancing or get slammed by its creators and called unplayable.

I mean you had CS beta, COD 1, HL......ext.....ext...ext...Of course they were all on PC and not on MS xbox. I understand Microsoft threw there money around to get it in MLG and still to this day have a spot reserved for Halo games, right now that spots being used by COD Ghost. MS got Halo 2 into MLG and still sponsors and throws money at MLG to hold that spot for Halo games.

Like I mentioned earlier in this thread, I did in fact play the heck out of Halo 2 because of a roommate. I put in over 200+ hours in Halo 2, which is a lot for me considering it's a controller FPS and I didn't like it at all. I preferred COD 1, Counter-Strike, Half Life 2/Deathmatch and Cod 2 all over Halo 2. That's the bigger FPS games that came out in 2003-2005 if you didn't know. They were all vastly superior to Halo 2 in every way.

Lol yeah from your posts you have no idea what MLG is at all. And for that matter you don't know what a actual competitive fps looks like.

[carpanfan96]

Lol yeah from your posts you have no idea what MLG is at all. And for that matter you don't know what a actual competitive fps looks like.

 

Lmao, oh ok....  I know what both are. Trust me. I've never heard of really good ones using a controller though, everyone knows that K/M is the best control method for FPS. 

 

I just have a few questions for you though.

 

 

 

Do you have a scuf controller? Do you even know what it is and what it's advantage is. (It's a huge advantage to own one btw.)

 

Do you play your FPS on the PC with M/K? Is that your preferred method of playing FPS? 

 

Do you realize that MS sponsors the Ghost Winter championships and is one of the biggest MLG sponsors? 

 

Now if you don't play on PC, then you probably don't have any clue what so ever as to what I'm talking about when I say that Halo 2 was garbage compared to Halo CE or that Ghost is Garbage in every sense of the word. You probably won't agree with me that COD hasn't been really COD since MW1 came out nearly 7 years ago either. Then again you probably didn't play the original COD vision that came out on PC in 2003 either. There's also a good chance you never played HL2: Deathmatch or CS:S or CS:GO. 

 

 

Which in turn is why PC gamers in general laugh at FPS games being played on consoles. To everyone not on the Halo 2 was the greatest thing since sliced bread crowd. I'm sorry for derailing and trolling this thread for this long as it wasn't my intention at all. I just hate the fact that people call that garbage, a good game when the people who made it slammed it and called it an unplayable mess. I have the same problem with COD now as well because it's been nothing but a hot mess that needs to be yank from Activisions publishing cycle of death. 

[CarolinaCoolin]

Lmao, oh ok.... I know what both are. Trust me. I've never heard of really good ones using a controller though, everyone knows that K/M is the best control method for FPS.

I just have a few questions for you though.

Do you have a scuf controller? Do you even know what it is and what it's advantage is. (It's a huge advantage to own one btw.)

Do you play your FPS on the PC with M/K? Is that your preferred method of playing FPS?

Do you realize that MS sponsors the Ghost Winter championships and is one of the biggest MLG sponsors?

Now if you don't play on PC, then you probably don't have any clue what so ever as to what I'm talking about when I say that Halo 2 was garbage compared to Halo CE or that Ghost is Garbage in every sense of the word. You probably won't agree with me that COD hasn't been really COD since MW1 came out nearly 7 years ago either. Then again you probably didn't play the original COD vision that came out on PC in 2003 either. There's also a good chance you never played HL2: Deathmatch or CS:S or CS:GO.

Which in turn is why PC gamers in general laugh at FPS games being played on consoles. To everyone not on the Halo 2 was the greatest thing since sliced bread crowd. I'm sorry for derailing and trolling this thread for this long as it wasn't my intention at all. I just hate the fact that people call that garbage, a good game when the people who made it slammed it and called it an unplayable mess. I have the same problem with COD now as well because it's been nothing but a hot mess that needs to be yank from Activisions publishing cycle of death.

The more you post the more I get the sense you have no clue what you are talking about at all. That's all I can really say because everything you've posted in this thread has been wrong. Like painfully wrong.

[carpanfan96]

Pretty much wrong on all fronts buddy. Good going.

 

 

Ummm, the first half was questions...Can't get those wrong. 

 

 

As for MS sponsoring MLG and the COD championship being on xbox's > http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/competitions/68

 

Modern Warfare was really the last good true COD game, the team made MW2 but it was a hot mess. Sledgehammer and Raven plus what was left of IW made MW3.  Anything not made by the original COD team isn't really COD, just like the later version of Medal of Honor weren't really MOH games because IW didn't have anything to do with them. This is opinion based but COD4 was really the last game that glued me in with the series. 

 

As for Bungie slamming the game and it's multiplayer. You can look it up, but halo 2's technical lead Chris Butcher said the multiplayer was unplayable and pale shadow of what it should have been. 

 

So really the only things I could be wrong about are Halo CE being better then Halo 2 or MW1 and the earlier COD games being better then the ones that were developed by other teams....That's all opinion based really, can't be wrong or right about that. Was I wrong about your experience with PC gaming.  So you actually did play CS:S and CS:GO, COD1, COD2 and HL2: DM on PC. I know you play Dota and Starcraft, but I was wondering about the FPS that came out around Halo 2 mainly. 

 

 

Also you were a bad sport and didn't answer the questions. They were simple questions and wouldn't have taken that long.... 

 

Oh and If you're a competitive gamer playing on xbox 360 and don't own a scuf controller, I'd recommend buying one. They are allowed at MLG events and they allow you to play with out moving your thumbs off the sticks. 

[CarolinaCoolin]

Ummm, the first half was questions...Can't get those wrong.

As for MS sponsoring MLG and the COD championship being on xbox's > http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/competitions/68

Modern Warfare was really the last good true COD game, the team made MW2 but it was a hot mess. Sledgehammer and Raven plus what was left of IW made MW3. Anything not made by the original COD team isn't really COD, just like the later version of Medal of Honor weren't really MOH games because IW didn't have anything to do with them. This is opinion based but COD4 was really the last game that glued me in with the series.

As for Bungie slamming the game and it's multiplayer. You can look it up, but halo 2's technical lead Chris Butcher said the multiplayer was unplayable and pale shadow of what it should have been.

So really the only things I could be wrong about are Halo CE being better then Halo 2 or MW1 and the earlier COD games being better then the ones that were developed by other teams....That's all opinion based really, can't be wrong or right about that. Was I wrong about your experience with PC gaming. So you actually did play CS:S and CS:GO, COD1, COD2 and HL2: DM on PC. I know you play Dota and Starcraft, but I was wondering about the FPS that came out around Halo 2 mainly.

Also you were a bad sport and didn't answer the questions. They were simple questions and wouldn't have taken that long....

Oh and If you're a competitive gamer playing on xbox 360 and don't own a scuf controller, I'd recommend buying one. They are allowed at MLG events and they allow you to play with out moving your thumbs off the sticks.

Stopped reading after your first sentence because that told me you have no clue what you're talking about. You claimed to know about the MLG settings and have played them then you'd know vehicles weren't apart of the game and the MLG didn't use maps big enough for them to be used for that reason. Second MLG made the spawning better not worst. Thirdly it was impossible to double double shot because you needed a full clip to double so you could only do it once in a fire fight. So like I said, br has always been a 4 head shot kill or bxr close range(which took skill to pull off) Fourthly in MLG you were automatically dq'd for using any map jumping glitches so that took that out of the game. Leading me to undoubtedly know that you know nothing about the MLG or competitive halo and were only playing the game causally. So you have no legs to stand on when talking about this game because you actually haven't fully experienced it.

I still play cs and it is/was no where near h2 and neither was hl2. You putting cod as a competitive fps at all is beyond laughable. That games whole premise is built on fast spawns and randomness which requires no skill. So that also confirms you don't really know what an actual fps looks like.

It's just getting sad man

[Porn Shop Clerk]

no, sad would be bragging about playing a broken game in competitions