If Dwayne Jarrett blows up, can anyone stop our offense?

[Fireball77]

RE- the TB Td pass: I think that's the play after which Smitty is shown on the bench saying to the camera, "If you tell a dog to sit and don't ever give him a biscuit he's not gonna sit." And I know that Jake's been quoted as saying that he can "see that look in Smitty's eye and knows he's ready to get going". IMO, means that it was a big time run heavy game and Smitty had been patient about it up to that point but he was ready to get his and Jake knew it. It was a well executed play by both of them and it speaks to their chemistry.

[MadHatter]

Oh so Jake never threw the ball to Smitty with a wide open running back in the flat? Never threw it to Smitty when ANYONE was wide open? OK you believe your story I will believe mine. Smitty has always been a bail out for Jake. And to his credit, Smitty more times than not makes a outstanding play.

Basing of facts? You throw numbers out there like a fantasy GM trying to trade a worthless player for a superstar. Show me the stats of when we are behind and when we are ahead. You justify your belief with a few numbers. Any idiot can throw numbers around and make a point.

You question my knowledge of Jake because I believe he throws to Smitty more than he needs to. I didn't have a problem with you OPINION. You said "If you were a big Jake fan then you would know that Jake spreads the ball around pretty well Implying I don't know Jake (or the Panthers) as well as YOU DO.

You want to make a point make your damn point. I can respect that.

Attack my knowledge of this team or player because you disagree with my point, opinion or statement. Go screw yourself. I don't get PISSY over opinion I get pissy because YOU INSULTED ME ON THIS BOARD.

If you would check statistics for Jake and Smitty, you will see that Jake does not throw to Smitty (as a % of total throws) any more often than most other QB's throw to their #1 WR.

Jake will go to Smitty when he is in trouble, becasue Smitty has shown time and time again to be able to go up and get it.

However, Jake does not lock onto Smitty.

[pstall]

Year 3 says it all on a WR.

The playbook WILL be the same. So either it's confidence WITHIN Jarrett or confidence IN Jarrett that is lacking OR, he just doesn't grasp what he is being fed.

[Carolina Crazy V2]

If Jarrett blows up, won't it be bad? Who would our 3rd reciever be?

[Snake]

But, just as you suggest, Smitty more often than not comes away with the ball. I just think Jake is taking advantage of one of the league's best receivers.

I've mentioned this on before, but I'll bring it up again. During the Monday night game against Tampa last year, I remember seeing Jake drop back to pass. Jonathan Stewart was wide open about ten yards away. No one was even close to him.

I'm screaming at the TV, "Give it to Stewart!" That is, until Jake tossed up a touchdown pass to Smith in the endzone.

Jake's not perfect, we all know this. I just think don't think Jake suffers from tunnelvision so much as he's putting the ball in the hands of one of our team's biggest playmakers.

Jakes not perfect but he has had more success then Carson Palmer,McNabb,and even Drew Brees. He might not do everything right but he knows how to win and more importantly he wins in the clutch. I still believe the report that they didnt let him practice the week before the AZ game and thats why he was rusty. That was a failure on the QB coach's fault. Still our D getting ripped apart by fitz had something to do with it too.

[mantal]

If you would check statistics for Jake and Smitty, you will see that Jake does not throw to Smitty (as a % of total throws) any more often than most other QB's throw to their #1 WR.

Jake will go to Smitty when he is in trouble, because Smitty has shown time and time again to be able to go up and get it.

However, Jake does not lock onto Smitty.

I don't think you will convince posters on here of this, they just won't believe it....

[rippadonn]

I think Moose has been one of the most solid receivers in the game for a long time now and I'm glad that he is a Panther once again. I only hope that Jarrett is taking advantage of having by far two of the best receivers in NFL football to learn from every day.

I think Moose has a couple good years left in him. I only hope he can become our next Ricky Proehl-sp if or when the young guy finally becomes what he was at USC. I think Jarrett will be very successful in this league. He had some brilliant catches last year including a couple 3rd and 4th down conversions.

[Rong Fo]

If Jarrett blows up, won't it be bad? Who would our 3rd reciever be?

Not if he blows up like Dr. Manhattan. The power to manipulate space and time could really help a receiver hone his craft.

[Rong Fo]

More seriously, if Jarrett can't take advantage of the opportunity he has this season, in his third year, as the third receiver going into camp, having worked with and learned from Moose, Smitty, Jake, Vinnie T., Deangelo, etc. well...

He's got the talent, and has had the chance to learn from the best. It's all in his hands now.

[pstall]

Jakes not perfect but he has had more success then Carson Palmer,McNabb,and even Drew Brees. He might not do everything right but he knows how to win and more importantly he wins in the clutch. I still believe the report that they didnt let him practice the week before the AZ game and thats why he was rusty. That was a failure on the QB coach's fault. Still our D getting ripped apart by fitz had something to do with it too.

WOW. I have not heard that. But that game looked like the game after the bye vs either Det or Oak. Can't remember which.

[d-run]

The only thing that slows this offense is the thing that slowed it last year in spots. The guy leading it. If we have to rely on him too much we may struggle. And don't for one second think that DC's won't do everything in their power to make us do just that.

Jake has been making it happen for the most part but I think he is clearly the weak link as far as the offense goes. A lot weaker in my opinion than the lack of a dominant #2 receiver.

I think jake is the right qb for the panthers because of his leadership, chemistry with smith, etc.... But as far as weak link, he would have to be it by default. He isn't that bad, he just isn't elite. We have an elite reciever, elite rb, and an offensive line that is one of the best, imo. You can't have an elite offense without one of the best qb's in the league(see Patriots/Brady circa 2007). I think our offense is good, just not stellar, like was being thrown around earlier in this thread. It is good enough to win it all. It just depends on how well the defense plays down the stretch.

[dimbee]

Good offense beats good defense, and vice versa.

My feeling is that the offense generally has the advantage. Match the best offense against the best defense, and the best offense will have an advantage.

I disagree and I think that history backs me up. An offense is always going to be trying to do the same thing- move the ball down the field. The defense has an advantage in that they hold the ground that the offense wants to take. Not to mention that the "best" defense will typically be built of inherently more physical and stronger players than the offense is. An offense is predicated on rhythm and exact execution of any particular play. A defense is predicated on disrupting that. And, again, this is just my own belief, but I feel that the defense has the upper hand on any given play and will win more plays than it loses, all things being equal.

[Mr. Scot]

I disagree and I think that history backs me up. An offense is always going to be trying to do the same thing- move the ball down the field. The defense has an advantage in that they hold the ground that the offense wants to take. Not to mention that the "best" defense will typically be built of inherently more physical and stronger players than the offense is. An offense is predicated on rhythm and exact execution of any particular play. A defense is predicated on disrupting that. And, again, this is just my own belief, but I feel that the defense has the upper hand on any given play and will win more plays than it loses, all things being equal.

On the flipside, the offense knows where the ball is headed, who's blocking where, what routes are being run, etc. Defense has to react, or guess.

I don't think either side has an inherent advantage really. Scheme, talent, execution, and other things all come to bear on who wins and who loses each play.

It's one of the things I love about football, really.

[DaveThePanther2008]

....However, Jake does not lock onto Smitty.

YOUR OPINION...

I Think this is hilarious. I am a huge supporter of Jake, I always have been. I think his performance in the playoffs was just a bad game. Over the last 6 months many wanted to bash him and call for his job and a few wanted his head on a platter.

I point out the one fault I think he has and you would think I thought he was the worst QB ever. You would have thought I stated something NO one has ever said about him. WTFever.

I have my OPINION if you don't like it I DON'T CARE.

GO Panthers