If Dwayne Jarrett blows up, can anyone stop our offense?

[DaveThePanther2008]

Year one Jarrett didn't have a clue. At 20 yrs old he thought because he was BMOC at USC that he was going to walk into the NFL and become a star. NOT... The NFL isn't the PAC 10. S. Smith got in his ass and he got the wake up call a little too late.

Year two Jarrett, though awake, the Panthers weren't sure he was ready to be #3 so we got D.J. Hackett. Jarrett was inactive half the season. Yet when he was in there he was a good target and had some important catches.

Year three Jarrett knows the system, Jake likes this target and Jarrett is cemented at #3. So unless he has a terrible preseason. Jarrett will help us keep defenses honest. Smitty, Moose, Jarrett will keep defenses from stacking the box.

MY ONLY CONCERN is Jake. I am a big Jake fan but my biggest criticism of Jake and his Tunnelvision. I do believe with the new QB Coach and Jarrett abilities, Jake will shake that issue and have a good year.

I think Jarrett becomes a legit threat and the Panthers will have a very scary offense.

Go Panthers

[Davidson Deac II]

Yes, it can be stopped. I'm a firm believer that if you match up a stellar defense against a stellar offense, the defense will win more times than not

Good offense beats good defense, and vice versa.

My feeling is that the offense generally has the advantage. Match the best offense against the best defense, and the best offense will have an advantage.

But imo, we don't have a stellar offense. Last year, the run game was great in the second half of the season against mostly subpar competition. The passing game was adequate. If Jarrett continues to improve, that will help, but I doubt it will make us into a stellar offense.

[joemac]

Gah, the whole Jake tunnel vision thing gets old....Moose almost had 1000 yards last year to go with Smitty's 1500. I would say thats pretty good, when you have a team that rushed for 2400 yards.

I would like to see Stewart and Williams in the game at the same time.

[panthers55]

MY ONLY CONCERN is Jake. I am a big Jake fan but my biggest criticism of Jake and his Tunnelvision. I do believe with the new QB Coach and Jarrett abilities, Jake will shake that issue and have a good year.

I think Jarrett becomes a legit threat and the Panthers will have a very scary offense.

Go Panthers

If you were a big Jake fan then you would know that Jake spreads the ball around pretty well. If you were paying attention you would know we have plowed this ground several times in the off season. Smitty for example only accounted for around 31% of Jake's attempts or completions. Look around the league and you will see that other number 1s get the same kind of attention in many systems.

So your worries should be alleviated.

[KARASMATIC444]

Year one Jarrett didn't have a clue. At 20 yrs old he thought because he was BMOC at USC that he was going to walk into the NFL and become a star. NOT... The NFL isn't the PAC 10. S. Smith got in his ass and he got the wake up call a little too late.

Year two Jarrett, though awake, the Panthers weren't sure he was ready to be #3 so we got D.J. Hackett. Jarrett was inactive half the season. Yet when he was in there he was a good target and had some important catches.

Year three Jarrett knows the system, Jake likes this target and Jarrett is cemented at #3. So unless he has a terrible preseason. Jarrett will help us keep defenses honest. Smitty, Moose, Jarrett will keep defenses from stacking the box.

MY ONLY CONCERN is Jake. I am a big Jake fan but my biggest criticism of Jake and his Tunnelvision. I do believe with the new QB Coach and Jarrett abilities, Jake will shake that issue and have a good year.

I think Jarrett becomes a legit threat and the Panthers will have a very scary offense.

Go Panthers

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[DaveThePanther2008]

If you were a big Jake fan then you would know that Jake spreads the ball around pretty well. If you were paying attention you would know we have plowed this ground several times in the off season. Smitty for example only accounted for around 31% of Jake's attempts or completions. Look around the league and you will see that other number 1s get the same kind of attention in many systems.

So your worries should be alleviated.

When Jake is not pressured he does well but he also has Occassional (Smitty) Tunnelvision.

Sorry if I don't hang out in here and read every post ever written on the subject.

Provide all the stats you want. I don't care. Alot will agree that Jake does count on Smitty to bail him out. And he does. I have always defended Jake and his running of this team. Because I feel he has tunnelvision to Smitty who the hell are you to bash my knowledge of Jake or this team.

Your OPINION is noted but I don't agree with you.

I do believe Jake is going to do a better Job of spreading the ball around with Jarrett in the line up.

[Snake]

Yes, it can be stopped. I'm a firm believer that if you match up a stellar defense against a stellar offense, the defense will win more times than not

This is true but if the other team has a better Offense and Defense then Your in trouble. The Pats are great examples of that.

With that said I think Jarrett will be a victim once again by the way we run the offense. We dont use many 3 WR sets and so once again I think he will not be allowed to "Blow up".

[carolinarolls]

The only thing that slows this offense is the thing that slowed it last year in spots. The guy leading it. If we have to rely on him too much we may struggle. And don't for one second think that DC's won't do everything in their power to make us do just that.

Jake has been making it happen for the most part but I think he is clearly the weak link as far as the offense goes. A lot weaker in my opinion than the lack of a dominant #2 receiver.

[panthers55]

When Jake is not pressured he does well but he also has Occassional (Smitty) Tunnelvision.

Sorry if I don't hang out in here and read every post ever written on the subject.

Provide all the stats you want. I don't care. Alot will agree that Jake does count on Smitty to bail him out. And he does. I have always defended Jake and his running of this team. Because I feel he has tunnelvision to Smitty who the hell are you to bash my knowledge of Jake or this team.

Your OPINION is noted but I don't agree with you.

I do believe Jake is going to do a better Job of spreading the ball around with Jarrett in the line up.

If you are saying that Smitty is his go to receiver when he is in trouble and is looking for someone who will catch the ball while still being covered, then you are right. But it isn't tunnel vision as much as throwing to the guy who is most reliable and likely to get the ball in traffic. Smitty and he have a great relationship and almost an uncany ability to connect with each other.

Secondly Jake often has to look for Smitty late rather than early in a pattern given that Smitty often gets single and double coverage off the line and has to work his way open. So Jake will often look early and look late. You can incorrectly call that tunnel vision but more accurately it means going through the progressions and looking back to Smitty to see if he has cleared.

As for bashing your knowledge, you made a statement which is not supported by facts. Feel free to say anything you want but don't get so pissy when people point out it doesn't match any fact or stats out there.

[panthers55]

The only thing that slows this offense is the thing that slowed it last year in spots. The guy leading it. If we have to rely on him too much we may struggle. And don't for one second think that DC's won't do everything in their power to make us do just that.

Jake has been making it happen for the most part but I think he is clearly the weak link as far as the offense goes. A lot weaker in my opinion than the lack of a dominant #2 receiver.

Given he won more games in the fourth quarter than he lost and has more games with a passer rating over 100 than he has below 70, he is clearly not the weak link. If you had said the defense was the weak link in the second half you would have been right but Jake actually got better during the year as he recovered from surgery and gained his confidence. After the bye he has one terrible game with everything else above 70. But I will stop, you aren't going to see logic or facts or anything else so I won't waste my time.

[southcakalac]

homer alert

WRONG. :dita:

Look at the Tampa bay vs Oakland SB.

TB = #1 Defense

OAK= #1 Offense

it was rape

Yeah but they knew what plays were coming.

[joemac]

I think that Jake is going to have a chip on his shoulder, and we are going to see the 2007 pre-injury Jake. He will be fully healed from his surgery, and ready to bust ass after the Card's game. I have a feeling that Smitty is going to do everything in his power to help Jake come back strong, that is his boy.

[DaveThePanther2008]

If you are saying that Smitty is his go to receiver when he is in trouble and is looking for someone who will catch the ball while still being covered, then you are right. But it isn't tunnel vision as much as throwing to the guy who is most reliable and likely to get the ball in traffic. Smitty and he have a great relationship and almost an uncany ability to connect with each other.

Secondly Jake often has to look for Smitty late rather than early in a pattern given that Smitty often gets single and double coverage off the line and has to work his way open. So Jake will often look early and look late. You can incorrectly call that tunnel vision but more accurately it means going through the progressions and looking back to Smitty to see if he has cleared.

As for bashing your knowledge, you made a statement which is not supported by facts. Feel free to say anything you want but don't get so pissy when people point out it doesn't match any fact or stats out there.

Oh so Jake never threw the ball to Smitty with a wide open running back in the flat? Never threw it to Smitty when ANYONE was wide open? OK you believe your story I will believe mine. Smitty has always been a bail out for Jake. And to his credit, Smitty more times than not makes a outstanding play.

Basing of facts? You throw numbers out there like a fantasy GM trying to trade a worthless player for a superstar. Show me the stats of when we are behind and when we are ahead. You justify your belief with a few numbers. Any idiot can throw numbers around and make a point.

You question my knowledge of Jake because I believe he throws to Smitty more than he needs to. I didn't have a problem with you OPINION. You said "If you were a big Jake fan then you would know that Jake spreads the ball around pretty well Implying I don't know Jake (or the Panthers) as well as YOU DO.

You want to make a point make your damn point. I can respect that.

Attack my knowledge of this team or player because you disagree with my point, opinion or statement. Go screw yourself. I don't get PISSY over opinion I get pissy because YOU INSULTED ME ON THIS BOARD.

[CharlotteBeer.com]

Oh so Jake never threw the ball to Smitty with a wide open running back in the flat? Never threw it to Smitty when ANYONE was wide open? OK you believe your story I will believe mine. Smitty has always been a bail out for Jake. And to his credit, Smitty more times than not makes a outstanding play.

But, just as you suggest, Smitty more often than not comes away with the ball. I just think Jake is taking advantage of one of the league's best receivers.

I've mentioned this on before, but I'll bring it up again. During the Monday night game against Tampa last year, I remember seeing Jake drop back to pass. Jonathan Stewart was wide open about ten yards away. No one was even close to him.

I'm screaming at the TV, "Give it to Stewart!" That is, until Jake tossed up a touchdown pass to Smith in the endzone.

Jake's not perfect, we all know this. I just think don't think Jake suffers from tunnelvision so much as he's putting the ball in the hands of one of our team's biggest playmakers.