Darren Sharper arrested on rape charges

[Proudiddy]

Some of you are seriously fuging ignorant when you automatically assume that a woman is going to file rape charges because she's a golddigger. Rape is literally the only crime where the perpetrator gets the benefit of the doubt and the victim gets a sideways glance. Had this been about Sharper punching out some drunk loud mouth some of these same people in this thread that are posting bullshit like what I quoted would be saying "Man, shouldn't have put himself in that position he's famous and he's got money what was he doing at such and such place and why didn't he do this, that, or the other", but since it's rape you guys lose your minds thinking that an evil woman might be behind the allegations.

 

No matter what you cats say that are trying to promote some kind of code between males, rape isn't okay. You hate women on a level so subconscious that it comes out at inopportune times like this one. Pure ignorance.

 

Let due process play out and see what the court finds before you start telling us all how much you hate women and how deceptive and manipulative and money hungry they are, k?

 

LOL, overreact much?

 

Where did I say she's a manipulative gold digger?

 

I said if it was the same woman twice months apart and they're just now charging him for both instances, I have a lot more questions then I would if it was two separate women on two separate occasions.  Also, I just saw a report elsewhere that says New Orleans authorities are now investigating charges that he committed sexual assault there as well.  Which would clearly show the common denominator is Sharper and as the old saying goes - where there is smoke, there is fire.

 

Also, that was a woman who made the comment about confirming consent through a text before engaging in sexual intercourse.

 

So...  Slow your roll buddy.

[intangiblejohnny]

I have to say that I'm very disappointed in a few of you guys.

Rape is a crime of violence and domination that appeals to the psyche of sadistic, control fueled personalities. It has little or nothing to do with "getting laid".

Rape is one of the most unreported violent crimes largely because of some of the attitudes represented in this thread.

We should really stick to football here.

[intangiblejohnny]

Yeah because you can put everybody in a box. You have no idea what his motivation was.

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The psychological motives behind rape are well established.

[Vagrant]

LOL, overreact much?

 

Where did I say she's a manipulative gold digger?

 

I said if it was the same woman twice months apart and they're just now charging him for both instances, I have a lot more questions then I would if it was two separate women on two separate occasions.  Also, I just saw a report elsewhere that says New Orleans authorities are now investigating charges that he committed sexual assault there as well.  Which would clearly show the common denominator is Sharper and as the old saying goes - where there is smoke, there is fire.

 

Also, that was a woman who made the comment about confirming consent through a text before engaging in sexual intercourse.

 

So...  Slow your roll buddy.

 

You also initially said that if this was one woman that this seems "sketchy". As in, you're casting judgement about a situation before having literally any details other than the fact that this man was charged with a crime that the police deemed significant enough to investigate and charge him with. That, to me, shows a vested interest in the male perspective of this crime. Something like, "Oh man, all these false claims are making me not know what to believe anymore". And if that's the case, you should look up some statistics and educate yourself on the issue of how many rapes go unreported. How many rape victims are too afraid to come forward because of EXACTLY those type of comments about the case seeming "sketchy". Imagine how much that would hurt the victim, assuming she was raped, to come here and read that somebody with no knowledge of the situation had already found her sketchy in the court of public opinion. But I'm sure she'd be glad to know that you find her story more credible now that you've gotten more details that have assuaged your initial skepticism. That's a big help to the cause, man. But seriously, your depiction of this situation as sketchy before you even knew if there was one victim or two says more about YOU than it does about the victim(s). 

 

And I don't care if it was a mule that made that comment about getting a text of consent, it's not a great idea. It sets a precedent for coercion. Women are no more "always right" about issues of rape than men are "always wrong". Throwing out the fact that a woman gave that advice bears no impact on whether it's good advice or not. What bothered me about your "advice" is that it was one made in the assumption that women are always out to entrap guys into rape charges when that couldn't be further from the truth. Men need to use common sense, respect, and courtesy when dealing with women at all times. Leave no room for misinterpretation. In the same vein, women also need to be clear, respectful, and courteous as well. But building alibis in advance of a sexual encounter sounds like the work of a sociopath or a rapist to me. Not calling you either obviously, but it's not a good look.

 

So.... educate yourself buddy?

 

 

[TN05]

Know what you hear about even more frequently? Actual rapes.

You can claim you're not making light of real victims, but that's exactly what you're doing. The number of false reports is an extremely tiny and insignificant number compared to the amount of rape happening in this country, and all you and the rest of the people who can't hear about a rape without calling the woman a liar are doing is making it harder for actual victims to come forward.

Not only are people getting raped, now they also have to get re-raped every day by people like you. Congrats on being a piece of poo.

Maybe if rape weren't a crime that ruins your reputation for life, we'd be more willing to trust the accuser to start with, but rape is a serious crime and you need serious evidence to convict, like in any other crime.

It is awful rapists fall through the cracks but its equally bad when some's life is ruined for a crime they didn't commit. Brian Banks had his life's dream flushed away off a bogus claim and there are many more like him. Innocent until proven guilty is the mantra of our legal system, and to automatically assume the accuser (or the accused) is truthful with no evidence is simply not just. For better or worse the burden of proof is on the accuser and we'll hear her side in court.

[Mr. Scot]

I said if it was the same woman twice months apart and they're just now charging him for both instances, I have a lot more questions then I would if it was two separate women on two separate occasions. Also, I just saw a report elsewhere that says New Orleans authorities are now investigating charges that he committed sexual assault there as well. Which would clearly show the common denominator is Sharper and as the old saying goes - where there is smoke, there is fire.

Having it be the same woman twice doesn't really sound sketchy to me.

I've heard stories before of a woman not reporting a rape out of fear/shame/whatever, and then the guy thinking "Hey I got away with it", which leads down the road to thoughts of "Why not go back for round two?"

[Jangler]

I have to say that I'm very disappointed in a few of you guys.

Rape is a crime of violence and domination that appeals to the psyche of sadistic, control fueled personalities. It has little or nothing to do with "getting laid".

Rape is one of the most unreported violent crimes largely because of some of the attitudes represented in this thread.

We should really stick to football here.

 

 

[Mr. Scot]

Maybe if rape weren't a crime that ruins your reputation for life, we'd be more willing to trust the accuser to start with, but rape is a serious crime and you need serious evidence to convict, like in any other crime.

It is awful rapists fall through the cracks but its equally bad when some's life is ruined for a crime they didn't commit. Brian Banks had his life's dream flushed away off a bogus claim and there are many more like him. Innocent until proven guilty is the mantra of our legal system, and to automatically assume the accuser (or the accused) is truthful with no evidence is simply not just. For better or worse the burden of proof is on the accuser and we'll hear her side in court.

Except defense tactics these days have little to do with determining the facts of the situation.

The more common defense strategy now is to paint the woman as someone who "wanted it" or "deserved it" so that by the time the trial is over, her life is ruined (even if she was telling the truth). She gets raped in private, and then all over again in public. And you've got plenty of lawyers out there who are utterly ruthless and will sink to anything.

It's a very ugly thing.

[doogy]

Damn, even with him being a former Saint, I always kinda liked him on NFL Network. Heath Evans is an asshat tho.

 

Both are pretty bad IMO. 

[Proudiddy]

You also initially said that if this was one woman that this seems "sketchy". As in, you're casting judgement about a situation before having literally any details other than the fact that this man was charged with a crime that the police deemed significant enough to investigate and charge him with. That, to me, shows a vested interest in the male perspective of this crime. Something like, "Oh man, all these false claims are making me not know what to believe anymore". And if that's the case, you should look up some statistics and educate yourself on the issue of how many rapes go unreported. How many rape victims are too afraid to come forward because of EXACTLY those type of comments about the case seeming "sketchy". Imagine how much that would hurt the victim, assuming she was raped, to come here and read that somebody with no knowledge of the situation had already found her sketchy in the court of public opinion. But I'm sure she'd be glad to know that you find her story more credible now that you've gotten more details that have assuaged your initial skepticism. That's a big help to the cause, man. But seriously, your depiction of this situation as sketchy before you even knew if there was one victim or two says more about YOU than it does about the victim(s). 

 

And I don't care if it was a mule that made that comment about getting a text of consent, it's not a great idea. It sets a precedent for coercion. Women are no more "always right" about issues of rape than men are "always wrong". Throwing out the fact that a woman gave that advice bears no impact on whether it's good advice or not. What bothered me about your "advice" is that it was one made in the assumption that women are always out to entrap guys into rape charges when that couldn't be further from the truth. Men need to use common sense, respect, and courtesy when dealing with women at all times. Leave no room for misinterpretation. In the same vein, women also need to be clear, respectful, and courteous as well. But building alibis in advance of a sexual encounter sounds like the work of a sociopath or a rapist to me. Not calling you either obviously, but it's not a good look.

 

So.... educate yourself buddy?

 

It wasn't my "advice."  Again, it was a woman who suggested it.  And just as you are assuming that I was approaching it from the "male is always right," perspective, you are not looking at this objectively either.  I'm not a party in this situation.  And I'm well aware of the statistics.  I won't argue semantics with you, but you are inferring a lot of things out of what I said that weren't there.

 

 

[TN05]

Except defense tactics these days have little to do with determining the facts of the situation.

The more common defense strategy now is to paint the woman as someone who "wanted it" or "deserved it" so that by the time the trial is over, her life is ruined (even if she was telling the truth). She gets raped in private, and then all over again in public. And you've got plenty of lawyers out there who are utterly ruthless and will sink to anything.

It's a very ugly thing.

 

If the jury finds it unconvincing the rapist will be guilty and in jail for a while. Quite frankly how the hell are you going to argue against rape if you can't argue the sex was consensual? It's virtually impossible to do so.

And for that matter, a victim of a lying rape accuser is going to have their life ruined. Either way the innocent party is going to go through crap.

[Mr. Scot]

If the jury finds it unconvincing the rapist will be guilty and in jail for a while. Quite frankly how the hell are you going to argue against rape if you can't argue the sex was consensual? It's virtually impossible to do so.

And for that matter, a victim of a lying rape accuser is going to have their life ruined. Either way the innocent party is going to go through crap.

There's a difference between proving "consensual" and proving "she's a lying worthless slut who'd screw Satan for a dollar".

[usmcpanthers]

The pic magnet must not have been pussy magnet lol..dumbass

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[TN05]

There's a difference between proving "consensual" and proving "she's a lying worthless slut who'd screw Satan for a dollar".

 

Establishing or claiming character is part of court. The only way you are going to disprove a rape case (whether it happened or not) where both sides agree they had sex is to establish the other person as being a liar - be it by denying you committed rape or by establishing the accuser is untrustworthy. The exact same thing can happen from the accuser by establishing the accused has by targeting their character. It's a necessary part of many criminal cases and it doesn't deserve special treatment for rape.