DG: We are still cap challenged....RR: Coaches staying

[Creepster]

The problem is that you can't tender Hardy as he is an unrestricted free agent.  Tenders are only used with restricted free agents. Maybe we need to keep who we have.  So much for huddler wisdom.

 

 

whatever dude- unlike yourself I dont come here to cyber brawl - have a good one.

[MadHatter]

Best part about Shula staying.....watching some of you lose your minds.

[El Chingon]

Gettleman needs to have more of these press conferences.

[MadHatter]

whatever dude- unlike yourself I dont come here to cyber brawl - have a good one.

Not really seeing 55 doing anything other than correcting your egregiously wrong statements.

[panthers55]

whatever dude- unlike yourself I dont come here to cyber brawl - have a good one.

So both you and the guy you quoted are wrong and now you are butt hurt?   Hardly a brawl just an observation.   

[Creepster]

Not really seeing 55 doing anything other than correcting your egregiously wrong statements.

 

 

I guess you see what you want to see bro.

[top dawg]

Clearly we aren't going agree about anything it would appear.  What you think is gospel,I think is crap and vice versa.  You dislike Shula and you have that right.  I just point that Gettleman likes him and thinks he did a good job. So should we believe our GM who gets big bucks to make these decisions and has been talked about as the GM of the year or a guy on the huddle who likes to argue.

 

HMMMMM................

 

Tough choice.......................  

 

Call me Kettle, Pot!

 

Just because a GM is a GM doesn't mean that he/she is perfect. I'm a Gettleman guy, and I think he has done good job so far. That's what he is paid to do. I'm a member of the best football forum on the Internet, and I do what I do quite well, maturely and responsibly I might add, but I'm not perfect. Time will bare it all.  But, you would do well to remember that sometimes there can be more than one way to the right answer.

[CRA]

Not really seeing 55 doing anything other than correcting your egregiously wrong statements.

Yeah, I mean the entire post was pointing out how someone was so smart for suggesting we should tender Hardy....

55 merely pointed out that was impossible. Which someone had to

[panthers55]

Call me Kettle, Pot!

 

Just because a GM is a GM doesn't mean that he/she is perfect. I'm a Gettleman guy, and I think he has done good job so far. That's what he is paid to do. I'm a member of the best football forum on the Internet, and I do what I do quite well, maturely and responsibly I might add, but I'm not perfect. Time will bare it all.  But, you would do well to remember that sometimes there can be more than one way to the right answer.

And if you are a Gettleman guy you would do well to spend time wondering why he kept him and what he obviously knows that you don't.

[Creepster]

Yeah, I mean the entire post was pointing out how someone was so smart for suggesting we should tender Hardy....

55 merely pointed out that was impossible. Which someone had to

 

 

Regardless-

 I now know the diference between tendering or not a unrestricted and restricted fa now - the guys explanation was still a good one if the unrestricted or restricted parameters are corrected - one of the few cogent explanations you ever see on this board - I think the guy deserves credit for that

[top dawg]

Turned the ball over a lot more and had more 3 and outs.....that is what that sounds like. I'd much rather win than make the ESPN Top 10 for one highlight play mixed in with a lot of slop. You remember the one Chud-like called game? They pretty went downfield to Ginn all game. That was a loss in Buffalo.

Gettelmen addressed today about Barner. That wasn't Shula... even with a hurt Stewart there are too many guys ahead if Barner. Other guys are green and raw. There were reasons they weren't on the field.

How many respected offensive players spoke out about Chud's offense? 89 had better numbers under Chud.....he prefers Shula. He wants to win....not have meaningless yards.

 

I could be wrong, but it sounds to me a lot like you're saying that we should limit the offense for fear of fuging up. That's not necessarily the formula for success.

 

I don't think any yards are "meaningless" as teams are always waging an underlying battle of field position. But, for argument's sake, even if I accept your premise, I wholly believe that more "meaningful" yards and wins are not mutually exclusive. We can have both. Why would we want any less? A 28th ranked, chicken poo offense being lead by arguably the most physically gifted QB in the game is not the goal, but we'll see what G-man does to improve personnel, as well as see what Shula does with his new offensive toys. Excuses are perhaps justified this past year, but next season I am looking for better results (and that includes next January).

[CRA]

I could be wrong, but it sounds to me a lot like you're saying that we should limit the offense for fear of fuging up. That's not necessarily the formula for success.

 

I don't think any yards are "meaningless" as teams are always waging an underlying battle of field position. But, for argument's sake, even if I accept your premise, I wholly believe that more "meaningful" yards and wins are not mutually exclusive. We can have both. Why would we want any less? A 28th ranked, chicken poo offense being lead by arguably the most physically gifted QB in the game is not the goal, but we'll see what G-man does to improve personnel, as well as see what Shula does with his new offensive toys. Excuses are perhaps justified this year, but next year I am looking for better results (and I do mean next January).

I'm saying I support doing what wins games....

We had a limited team around Cam. Shulaball, while unsexy, played to the teams biggest strength. That was smart and it resulted in wins.

If you look at what Shula did PER OFFENSIVE DRIVE....we were top 10. It worked and allowed our D to be elite.

Gets some run blocking Gs and a power game RB and Shula will thirve.....bc unlike in Tampa he has Cam

[Marguide]

you guys seem to forget we are still paying Beason 8 million in 2014

 

As pointed out earlier in this thread, we aren't paying Beason anything in 2014 and haven't since the day we traded him.

 

Don't confuse the dead money that will hit the cap in 2014 with his pay. The $8 million is dead money hitting our books that was paid to Jon a long time ago.

[jdpanther5]

Regardless-

I now know the diference between tendering or not a unrestricted and restricted fa now - the guys explanation was still a good one if the unrestricted or restricted parameters are corrected - one of the few cogent explanations you ever see on this board - I think the guy deserves credit for that

I appreciate it. Admittedly I was mistaken in that I thought players became restricted after three or more years of service. Apparently it's EXACTLY three years, after that they become unrestricted.

So, unfortunately, Hardy would be unrestricted - having four years of service - so the only options are the exclusive and non-exclusive franchise tags.

Our best bet would probably be the non-exclusive tag. Obviously that calls for two firsts as compensation, but we could settle for less (1 first?).

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