One glaring Kapernick flaw

[mcdougal]

Kaepernick

243-416 (58.4%), 3197 yards (7.7 ypa), 21 TDs 8 INTs, 91.6 Rating

92 carries 524 yards (5.7 ypc) 4 TDs

68.6 QBR

 

Newton

292-473 (61.7%), 3379 yards (7.1 ypa) 24 TDs 13 INTs, 88.8 Rating

111 carries 585 yards (5.3 ypc) 6 TDs

56.2 QBR

 

 

Kap obviously doesn't have Brady's field vision, but I think some of you guys are selling him short. 

 

Both teams have very good up-and-coming QBs.  

 

 

Exactly. If Kap is a horrible passer, what does that make Luck? Tannehill? and Stafford? and Newton?

[Rules&Regulations]

I heard he's gonna wear a Dolphins helmet cause it's more stylish.

[Rules&Regulations]

Exactly. If Kap is a horrible passer, what does that make Luck? Tannehill? and Stafford? and Newton?

Better. All of those QBs do much more than Kaepernick.

[TheRumGone]

Exactly. If Kap is a horrible passer, what does that make Luck? Tannehill? and Stafford? and Newton?

 

horrible passer is kind of a misnomer.

 

what a lot of posters are saying is he can't read defenses. which makes him a horrible qb (passer).

 

whenever he faces a dominant defense who realize if you take away his first read and are able to contain him with fast lbs (like we have) you expose him. but there are only few teams who can do this. (us, seahawks and a few others who have dominant front 7s)

 

Cam (and other qbs like luck, rw, and tannehill) is different. he sits in the pocket and only runs when he has to. Kaep makes one read, freaks out and runs or scrambles till a receiver gets open. this isn't an exaggeration either. cause i was in the camp that i thought kaep was gonna be a great qb with harbaugh as his coach. But i haven't seen any change or an progression in his ability to read defenses.

 

kaep is getting by on his athleticism alone which is pretty remarkable. he is a freak athletically in the same mold as Cam.

[FrankTheTank21]

horrible passer is kind of a misnomer.

 

what a lot of posters are saying is he can't read defenses. which makes him a horrible qb (passer).

 

whenever he faces a dominant defense who realize if you take away his first read and are able to contain him with fast lbs (like we have) you expose him. but there are only few teams who can do this. (us, seahawks and a few others who have dominant front 7s)

 

Cam (and other qbs like luck, rw, and tannehill) is different. he sits in the pocket and only runs when he has to. Kaep makes one read, freaks out and runs or scrambles till a receiver gets open. this isn't an exaggeration either. cause i was in the camp that i thought kaep was gonna be a great qb with harbaugh as his coach. But i haven't seen any change or an progression in his ability to read defenses.

 

kaep is getting by on his athleticism alone which is pretty remarkable. he is a freak athletically in the same mold as Cam.

 

 

Agree to disagree.  

 

Last year teams tried to play a lot of zone against Kap and confuse him, and he carved it up.  This year teams played a lot more press man, and it worked because our WR corps was a M*A*S*H unit most of the season.  

 

The one thing I'd like to see Kap do more often is dump off to the RB when things aren't down field.  He could do a better job of that.  

[TheRumGone]

Agree to disagree.  

 

Last year teams tried to play a lot of zone against Kap and confuse him, and he carved it up.  This year teams played a lot more press man, and it worked because our WR corps was a M*A*S*H unit most of the season.  

 

The one thing I'd like to see Kap do more often is dump off to the RB when things aren't down field.  He could do a better job of that.  

 

i've watched a lot of 49ers games because

 

1. I'm from there and grew up watching young and rice and my dad is still a 9ers fan and

 

2. i thought Kaep was gonna be the closest to Cam and he peaked my interest.

 

Cam had similar problems his second year (in the beginning) that Kaep has had this year. I wouldn't give credit to kaep carving up zone coverages as much as i would give credit to ya'lls run game, play action and superb offensive line. If you watch closely everything i've said about him reading his first and second options is for the most part largely correct. Kaep is a complete freak athletically and is getting by with his legs. which like I said is pretty remarkable because that makes him one of the most athletically gifted players on the field at any given time amongst some of the best athletes in the entire world.

 

Harbaugh has done a great job of masking these deficiencies but when he plays against dominant defenses who bring their A game, where he gets contained he gets exposed badly. He's not doing him any favors with the wristband playcalling and not letting this young qb grow. particularly because they have a team than can win the superbowl now and going through those young qb growing pains is costly to those chances. But this will catch up to him eventually. It did with Cam because he has suspect recievers and o-line and their was no way to mask Cam's growing pains because we have had an awful team around him.

 

i will agree it was hard on him without crabtree and vd missing time.

 

[FrankTheTank21]

i've watched a lot of 49ers games because

 

1. I'm from there and grew up watching young and rice and my dad is still a 9ers fan and

 

2. i thought Kaep was gonna be the closest to Cam and he peaked my interest.

 

Cam had similar problems his second year (in the beginning) that Kaep has had this year. I wouldn't give credit to kaep carving up zone coverages as much as i would give credit to ya'lls run game, play action and superb offensive line. If you watch closely everything i've said about him reading his first and second options is for the most part largely correct. Kaep is a complete freak athletically and is getting by with his legs. which like I said is pretty remarkable because that makes him one of the most athletically gifted players on the field at any given time amongst some of the best athletes in the entire world.

 

Harbaugh has done a great job of masking these deficiencies but when he plays against dominant defenses who bring their A game, where he gets contained he gets exposed badly. He's not doing him any favors with the wristband playcalling and not letting this young qb grow. particularly because they have a team than can win the superbowl now and going through those young qb growing pains is costly to those chances. But this will catch up to him eventually. It did with Cam because he has suspect recievers and o-line and their was no way to mask Cam's growing pains because we have had an awful team around him.

 

 

 

As you can imagine, I've watched every 9ers game.  

 

The one-read stuff is overblown, IMO.  All of a sudden is field vision got better once his WRs got healthy.  He threw for 300 yards against a top 5 Cardinals defense in their house when they were fighting for their season.  

 

He still has a lot of room for improvement, but he's not remedial like some suggest.  

[intangiblejohnny]

I can do better than just one:

1. His speech is incoherent at best. He sounds like he has a mouthfull of marbles and yet still comes across as arrogant.

2. His emotional instability scares children and small woodland animals.

3. His throwing motion makes real qbs nauseous.

4. He reads defenses like my 2 year old nephew reads Camus.

5. He needs to wear a helmet on and off the field.

6. He has an oddly shaped head as if his mothers reproductive area wasn't ready to squeeze out the Lord of all a**holes.

7. His vagina is so full of sand it could stop surging flood waters.

8. He is known as "one read" quaterback not because of his lack of football acumen but because that's the number of books he's read.

9. He is more overhyped than a Michael Bay movie.

10. He stands in the way of a Panther Superbowl.

(before people go batshit insane over this let me say "it's all in good fun")

But not really.

[rko396]

Exactly. If Kap is a horrible passer, what does that make Luck? Tannehill? and Stafford? and Newton?

 

 

You guys need to stop using numbers to make claims about who is better. If Luck threw for 4,500 yards and Stafford only threw for 4,300, that in NO WAY means Luck is better. Just because Tannehill has more TDs then Cam, that doesn't make him better. You need to WATCH and access these guys. Cam got credit for a 70-something yard TD pass to DWill vs the Jets, however, Cam only really accounted for about 2 of those yards. The rest was DWill. Im not saying Cam should have those yards taken away, im simply stating the yards were in no way an indication of what Cam did on that play. Cam's 11 yard laser to Olsen on the final drive vs the Saints was an UNBELIEVABLE throw that not many QBs can make, yet nothing on the box score, or his stats show that. 

 

Point being, watch the guys play, access how they play, how they read defenses, go thru reads, and footwork in the pocket. Do not use numbers to make claims.

[Ricky Spanish]

I'm pretty sure it's his face.

 

He has a face only a mother could love... and he was adopted...

[mcdougal]

Better. All of those QBs do much more than Kaepernick.

 

 

Over the course of a season, if one QB has a higher rating than all those mentioned, it is not logical to say that that QB is a worse passer.

 

Especially given how that QB's WR core for much of the season undertook a complete overhaul.

 

Not sure if Colin is better at passing than any one of those mentioned, but nothing in his history while in the NFL, which includes being 5 yards from winning a SB, indicates he is less of a passer.

[TheRumGone]

As you can imagine, I've watched every 9ers game.  

 

The one-read stuff is overblown, IMO.  All of a sudden is field vision got better once his WRs got healthy.  He threw for 300 yards against a top 5 Cardinals defense in their house when they were fighting for their season.  

 

He still has a lot of room for improvement, but he's not remedial like some suggest.  

 

it wasn't his field vision. his first and second read WR could actually get wide open.

 

and the cardinals defense did not bring their A-game. I wouldnt say the one-read stuff is overblown. But do you think Kaep could do what Cam did if they switched recievers? obviously not from what happened to you guys earlier in the season. We have some of the worst WR corp in the league and Cam still gets it done going through his progressions. Kaep without his top (elite) receivers struggled mightily.

 

i wouldn't go as far as to say he's remedial but damn that offense and coaching covers up a lot of those deficiencies. just my opinion. Harbaugh really needs to let kaep grow because this is going to catch up to him.

[Rules&Regulations]

As you can imagine, I've watched every 9ers game.

The one-read stuff is overblown, IMO. All of a sudden is field vision got better once his WRs got healthy. He threw for 300 yards against a top 5 Cardinals defense in their house when they were fighting for their season.

He still has a lot of room for improvement, but he's not remedial like some suggest.

That he threw for 300 yds doesn't necessarily say anything about his field vision or reading ability.

[Pejorative Miscreant]

You know you love that face

 

Reminds me of a confused Shock G